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  • BDDFreak
    Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 77

    So this article is clearly speaking on the negatives of the 21st century cures act, but the only real thing i got from it was the bill removes phase 3 as a requirement from the approval process! If it passes and sm04554 is successful we very well may see it on shelves by late 2016.

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    • lacazette
      Senior Member
      • May 2015
      • 394

      Modulating hair follicle size with Wnt10b-DKK1 pair during hair regeneration


      "Here, we show that in response to prolonged ectopic Wnt10b-mediated β-catenin activation, regenerating anagen hair follicles grow larger in size. In particular, the hair bulb, dermal papilla and hair shaft become enlarged"

      "these data suggest that WNT10b may have a proliferative effect on hair matrix and DP cells and that interactive signaling between extra epithelial and mesenchymal cells may later lead to the enlarged hair follicle phenotype. Furthermore, since the hair fiber and IRS are derived from hair keratinocyte precursors (34), differentiation of the increased matrix cell progenitor pool or their progeny may lead to a thickened hair shaft."

      "In the present study, we found aberrant localization of hyperproliferative hair stem cells during WNT10b induction. Therefore, WNT10b might stimulate hair stem cells to proliferate and migrate from the bulge region to replenish hair matrix cells."

      "Notably, in our study, DP size correlated with hair follicle size. It was reported that epidermal activation of β-catenin results in ectopic hair formation associated with increased fibroblast proliferation"

      "Therefore, it is possible that the WNT10b-induced canonical Wnt/β-catenin pathway could also directly promote proliferation and enlargement of the DP"


      This is how SM04554 should work for us. Damn , that would mean even our miniaturized hair could grow better and come back to normal terminal hair (like we saw in few cases of minox/fin, but with that modulation of Wnt pathway, they directly doing what follicles don't do well for hair formation because of the DHT and other factors.
      Instead of androgen drug that just reduce a factor that lead to this affected formation process.

      The more I read on wnt/b catenin, the more im convince it is the more promising thing. Even big Norwood could have an ht, cause SM will work on all follicles, so then ameliore the ones of us with poor donor area zone, and we know how it is the most important aspect for a good HT

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      • JayM
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 411

        Lacazette you find some really good stuff. Quick question as I'm not so pro with all this, where are you finding all these articles? Is it the same people doing the research?

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        • lacazette
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 394

          Originally posted by JayM
          Lacazette you find some really good stuff. Quick question as I'm not so pro with all this, where are you finding all these articles? Is it the same people doing the research?
          Hey jay no no it is published studies from researchers all other the world
          To find them I type key words in Google, like for an exemple "Wnt/β-catenin Signaling Pathway, hair follicle", and you choose "results from the last year". Like that, when you write 'scientific' key words, the majority of the links will lead to published studies from researchers

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          • JayM
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 411

            Aha must just be my inability to do things efficiently then. It sounds like a lot of different researchers are all going down this route. I guess it's because manipulating the wnt pathway has been proven to work on humans in other areas so it's a link from bloody rats to humans haha.

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            • nameless
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 965

              We need to get this SM stuff.

              I think it's pretty odd that the guy who said the nurse told him it doesn't work hasn't come back. I think that, that is a sign that SM is working and he's falling into line with the company's nondisclosure rules because he does not want to risk being cut off.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Originally posted by nameless
                We need to get this SM stuff.

                I think it's pretty odd that the guy who said the nurse told him it doesn't work hasn't come back. I think that, that is a sign that SM is working and he's falling into line with the company's nondisclosure rules because he does not want to risk being cut off.
                That's one hell of an assumption.

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                • nameless
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 965

                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  That's one hell of an assumption.
                  LOL! You're right.

                  I meant to say that it "could be" a sign that SM is working and he's falling into line with the company's nondisclosure rules because he does not want to risk being cut off."

                  I don't know why I typed it IS a sign of that when I meant to say it MIGHT BE a sign of that.

                  But I do have a point that it MIGHT BE a sign of what I indicated. The poster was obvious willing to blast out info for awhile and then all of a sudden he clammed up. I do think that, that is most likely a good sign. If SM didn't work he most likely would be willing to keep violating the nondisclosure agreement because he wouldn't care much if they dumped him.

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                  • Hemo
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 138

                    Originally posted by nameless
                    We need to get this SM stuff.

                    I think it's pretty odd that the guy who said the nurse told him it doesn't work hasn't come back. I think that, that is a sign that SM is working and he's falling into line with the company's nondisclosure rules because he does not want to risk being cut off.
                    LOL or he was full of shit?

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                    • nameless
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 965

                      Originally posted by Hemo
                      LOL or he was full of shit?

                      If he was just some full-of-sh!t troll then he would still be doing it. I reject the possibility that he was just some full-of-shit troll.

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1087

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        That's one hell of an assumption.
                        lol that's what I thought :P

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                        • nameless
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 965

                          Originally posted by Kiwi
                          lol that's what I thought :P
                          Like I later said, I meant to say that he MAY HAVE gone quiet because the treatment is working and he doesn't want to risk being dumped. I know I said that it IS a sign that the treatment is working and he doesn't want to be dumped, but that is not what I meant to say. Still, I do believe that the fact that he has clammed up is a good sign. I think it means that he doesn't want to be cut loose.

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                          • lacazette
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 394

                            Originally posted by nameless
                            If he was just some full-of-sh!t troll then he would still be doing it. I reject the possibility that he was just some full-of-shit troll.
                            "he would still be doing it", you don't take in consideration that he could be died, in psychatric hospital, founded a woman, founded an active life, being in prison, etc,etc.. haha x)

                            Do you know how many months he was on the trial when he claimed those things?

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                            • nameless
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 965

                              Originally posted by lacazette
                              "he would still be doing it", you don't take in consideration that he could be died, in psychatric hospital, founded a woman, founded an active life, being in prison, etc,etc.. haha x)

                              Do you know how many months he was on the trial when he claimed those things?

                              None of the things you stated would prevent him from continuing to post and none of them are likely to have happened in such a short period of time. Also, it doesn't matter how long he was on the trial because he could have learnt that the drug was working from other ways besides the drug actually working on him. For example, the same nurse who told him that she didn't see any improvement on any patients may have started seeing some improvement on patients and she may have told him or he may have talked to test-patients who were having success with the drug.

                              The point is that he's stopped sharing info for some reason and in my view that seems like it's probably a good sign. I'm not saying that I'm sure it's a good sign; I'm just saying that it seems like it's PROBABLY a good sign. It shows that for some reason he's decided to become compliant.

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                              • lacazette
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2015
                                • 394

                                Yes I agree, it could be a good sign more than a bad. fingers crossed! I really believe in this all Wnt pathway world, we will know more at the hair congress

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