Killer stack for border line baldies

[Notcoolanymore]

It's as if they're trying to reassure themselves they've made the right decision as opposed to actually help anybody. I've seen a thread that basically says "if you don't take AAs you're asking for it" which is not true.

But don't shit on it because you want to make yourself feel better about your choices. you guys don't like "propecia haters" but your hating on everything else.

I have read your entire post, and it was good one. I am happy that you are having success with your regimen. Maybe more people should try it to see if it works for them.

As far as your comments above, it can go both ways. If you have been around here long enough you know that the "anti fin" crowd is strong on these boards. They chime in on most threads that even hint at propecia being a good treatment option. It's as if they don't want to hear that ultimately they are to blame for their hair loss if they don't use an effective treatment, so they shit on everybody that has decided to use the best treatment available.

When I come on here and recommend propecia, I do it because I truly believe it is the best thing we have based on my personal experience. I haven't tried the stuff you are using, but i have tried plenty of crap that doesn't work and just want to let guys know what does.

Respect has to go both ways. Propecia users need to respect those who choose to pass on fin. None users need to respect those that decide to use propecia and not try to get them to second guess their choice.

[EXprettyboy]

Yeah I seem to inadvertently have become embroiled in this "bloods and crips" style gang warfare where hair loss suffers define themselves by their chosen treatments and then battle it out in Internet forums, with ironic balding themed avatar names.... What the **** am I doing?

It has been somewhat addictive but I've had enough for now and this will be my last post for some time. I will update in several months on progress.

Some stuff on my mind before I go:

1. Did you know that due to the relatively recent development of high speed Internet and easier access to explicit pornography, there has been an epidemic of young men suffering from varying degrees of erectile dysfunction? It's happening because the human brain becomes desensitised to visual stimuli when over exposed to it. So sexual sides may not be related to treatments for hairloss. Don't believe me? There's a reddit group with 80,000 members called "no fap". There's also a site called 'your brain on porn' you should check out.

2. On the subject of women. Their sexual attraction does not work like ours. We respond to visual cues of fertility. They respond to behavioural patterns associated to status and dominance. Basically it's not your hairloss that turns them off its your insecurity. Took me a while to figure that out.

Peace out

[Tenma]

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[Tenma]

Androgens are not the "problem", the genetic sensitivity to androgens in the follicle is the problem.

Yeah, i wasnt very especific about that. DHT produced inside the hair follicle is the main culprit.

androgens make a man.

Fin and Dut both raise testosterone, so the turning into a woman argument its really hilarious.

[Tenma]

Now I did say borderline, to me that means people would look at you and have to scrutinise for a few moments before concluding if your losing your hair. in my opinion this is one of the worst stages of hairloss because your whole identity is in doubt in your mind. If you don't wanna take AAs and you're already on minoxidil, this is what's working for me.

English its not my first language, so i misunderstood earlier what you mean by borderline.

Still, the problem i see with your regimen is the inability to fight the root cause of hairloss. You seem very determined to think otherwise, though.

[thechamp]

What do you think has been the most effective in your stack besides laser nizoral minoxdill I'm using those three?

[Notcoolanymore]

What do you think has been the most effective in your stack besides laser nizoral minoxdill I'm using those three?

I think the OP said he was going to stay away from these forums for a while.

[EXprettyboy]

Update

Guys.... I don't really know how to go about this, but I feel obliged to let you know what's going on, out of an understanding of the emotional distress this unfortunate cosmetic defect causes young men.

At this point, only a few weeks in, I believe I am observing the results of the first treatment regimen that might even be considered close to.... A CURE.

I stand to gain nothing by announcing this only a clear conscience because I've shared the news of my results. I had considered not making this post because I thought it might be better for me to be a guy with cool hair in a world half filled with baldies, than a guy with cool hair in a world full of guys with cool hair, but I couldn't do that. Besides I'm sure the majority of you guys will ignore this anyway! I can sleep at night because I told you about it.

I suspect later norwoods will respond too, but they will progress slower until they build up momentum. I believe thinning Norwood 2s and 3s will see results extremely quickly like me 6-8 weeks to become believers.

I will not be posting again on this forum. If some dedicated 'senior' poster wanted to quiz me over the phone I would consider this.

I want to give you some more specifics in the treatment in case you want to try yourself:
1- The head must be shaved tight during treatments, I believe this to be essential. When you reach a point when your condition has improved significantly, grow it out continuing treatments. Occasionally shave your head to induce an accelerated treatment phase. Repeat cycle until you hit Norwood 2. I estimate that full recovery under a year for moderate loss.

2 - regarding the laser part of the stack, I have began lifting the device a couple of inches over my scalp so that the focused dots of light diffuse to completely saturate the the area in laser light. I should mention that I screwed the lenses off already when I built it to create more coverage.

3 - I don't know if this is dangerous but when I finish dermarolling I give my scalp one or two sprays of minoxidil and a splash of alpecin lotion, and then I laser my head immediately.

4 - when I dermaroll, I go pretty hard. I aim for speckles of blood. This sounds worse than it is. I hold the roller close to the wheel part, this makes the pressure more direct. It is pretty ****in sore, today I nearly bough freeze gel in the pharmacy to numb my head but then I thought the chemicals would be absorbed and **** up the treatment, not worth the risk, current progress is well worth the pain.

I thought I had put together a decent treatment regimen, know I think I may have inadvertently discovered the first viable cure. I don't want to keep repeating the regimen so if your interested read through this thread.

I anticipate an absolute shit storm of hate response in this thread because I know this sounds to good to be true, but I swear to you this is the truth.

Perhaps some of your most prolific posters with solid reputations could do a ten man trial. Guys with moderate loss like thinning Norwood 3s. Give the entire stack 10 weeks. And then the masses will have a better indication of what's possible.

I would consider calling spencer Cobren, but I have a feeling I wouldn't be taken seriously. I also value my anonymity which is why I don't post pictures. I don't believe in taking photos anyway, if a treatment is cosmetically significant you'll know about it.


Final words in closing, I'm in my late twenties so I still have some time to really enjoy what's left of my youth. I wish I had of discovered this method a decade ago, my life would have been very different. There were some really low points relating directly to my hairloss. Good luck whatever you do, I know your hurting right now and you don't know what to believe but either way, more guys will get results with this method and I'm sure in two years it will be common knowledge so you can try then!
...and we got the last laugh on the big corporations jostling for the privilege of ripping bald men off for shit treatments. They won't make a cent in the end, haha, we tried everything we could ourselves until we beat them to it!!

..it's over!!!!!

[hellouser]

Perhaps some of your most prolific posters with solid reputations could do a ten man trial. Guys with moderate loss like thinning Norwood 3s.

I gave dermarolling 5 months and didn't notice much, if anything other than lots of bleeding.

Give the entire stack 10 weeks. And then the masses will have a better indication of what's possible.

That's what the dermarolling thread is/was for... the lack of results says a lot.

I would consider calling spencer Cobren, but I have a feeling I wouldn't be taken seriously. I also value my anonymity which is why I don't post pictures. I don't believe in taking photos anyway, if a treatment is cosmetically significant you'll know about it.

This is some serious Dr. Gho logic right there. Youre not revealing any identity by posting photos of the top of your head. Don't worry about your face being exposed, nobody cares to see it, we just want to see before/after shots of your hair.

[EXprettyboy]

This is not solely a dermarolling trial hellouser, it is a combo trial.

Here is where i'm at after only several weeks. I don't have before's as I said because I only care how it actually looks and feels to me, not some random extra follicle under a microscope.

I was significantly worse in january, very thin norwood 2.5 - 3.

I am nearly there although I'm going to continue treatment shaved for another few months and you can see why I expect a full recovery. This is why I think we have found a cure.

Like I said... ITS OVER!!!

[walrus]

This is not solely a dermarolling trial hellouser, it is a combo trial.

Here is where i'm at after only several weeks. I don't have before's as I said because I only care how it actually looks and feels to me, not some random extra follicle under a microscope.

I was significantly worse in january, very thin norwood 2.5 - 3.

I am nearly there although I'm going to continue treatment shaved for another few months and you can see why I expect a full recovery. This is why I think we have found a cure.

Like I said... ITS OVER!!!

You might not care --- but to make such bold claims you require evidence. "After" pictures without "before" are not worth very much at all.

[EXprettyboy]

well consider these my befores and in 6 months I'll update again. you can wait till then if you like.

In 6 weeks I reversed this shit 5 years. I'm seeing vast improvement by the week and the rate of improvement is accelerating.

Nothing anybody says will take the smile off my face.

[hellouser]

well consider these my befores and in 6 months I'll update again. you can wait till then if you like.

In 6 weeks I reversed this shit 5 years. I'm seeing vast improvement by the week and the rate of improvement is accelerating.

Nothing anybody says will take the smile off my face.

With the amount of hair you have now, it'd be very difficult if not near impossible to judge any more improvement. You saying it 'feels' thicker means squat. Hair is visual and photographs will prove that.

[gainspotter]

well consider these my befores and in 6 months I'll update again. you can wait till then if you like.

In 6 weeks I reversed this shit 5 years. I'm seeing vast improvement by the week and the rate of improvement is accelerating.

Nothing anybody says will take the smile off my face.

It is hard to tell if anyone who posts "cures" on this forum is genuine. Well, apart from the obvious sharks, but you aren't trying to sell anything. No baseline photos is odd but maybe you just rolled the dice on this method and weren't hopeful of results so you didn't bother.

Either way I might give this method a go, worst case is it will do jack shit and ill move on. I'd appreciate if you could give me a better idea of how you made the device, maybe some pics?

You gotta understand that everyone here is sick of hairloss and sick of crappy treatments and scams, so they do have a right to grill you.
If you are a genuine gu who's found something that works I'm happy for you.
Hope we can all find a cure soon.

[Dan26]

When did you start using minox exprettyboy?