Clinical trial starting using Jahoda's method !

[Westonci]

This is extremely exciting news, and Im not one to get excited usually. The science here is real folks, its only a matter of time.

[Henkeh91]

This is exciting indeed! Looking forward for further reports

[Arashi]

This is extremely exciting news, and Im not one to get excited usually. The science here is real folks, its only a matter of time.

Agreed. It's really good to see the enormous progress the real scientists are booking. We can use that for a change, to make up for all the scammers with their false promises, we've seen lately ...

[nasazl1]

The treatment to create more hair comes down to Follica or Taiwan National University Hospital (TNUH) hair cloning. Seriously doubt anyone else is close and I would tend to believe it is TNUH hair cloning or litterally not anything else within the next decade.

The good thing given the patience size of TNUH Hair Loss treatment that if information is not overtly provided to the public it will be found invertly through a few of the 400 participants telling what there results are and probably with photos too.

As we should begin to hear about the results starting in June, just a guess based they stated they are about to start and if they start March 1 it takes 3-4 weeks for them to grow millions of cloned cells then it takes 6 weeks for those cells to get hair to a point to break the skin level so to speak. Then hair grows at 1/2 inch a month. Thus in June or July we should begin to here reports about hair growing, if it works.

Then we need to know about thickness, density, texture, angle, color, quality and success rate on the different patient types. And, I believe since it does not involve new drugs that if it really does work expect to see it 3 years from now. Why so fast? It is just a person's own hair cells being injected, why they are calling it a medical procedure. And people like us are going to push hard to make them to allow this one medical procedure be allowed ASAP expediting the process.

Either way just get this perfected ASAP or let it be known it does not work as I will no longer follow this cr@p and do not care if they have a real cure 10 years from now I just will not care.

We can go to the moon, achieve Fusion, do heart transplants but apparently growing Normal hair again on top of a person's head is impossible at least in a time period I care about. You will be seeing more posts about me on the TNUH cloned hair thread over the coming months. For me this treatment works over the coming months which I know is a long shot or forget about this topic forever. Not trying to be negative just tired of Waiting.

Well at least we find out if this treatment works in 3-4 months then it is over either way. I am going to assume 34 1/2 more months and I think that is a real target date until it hits the market, I am an optimist. Or, I throw my new combs get tossed in the trash can and I forever forget this topic.

It all comes down to the next 3-4 months for me. Good lluck.

[locke999]

nasalz1,

I think if they followed a non-disclosure policy, none of the patients will be able to release any information to the public unless they do it anonymously, which would then be overlooked and unreliable.

And any timeline that any company put out is their most optimistic timeline, and not a guarantee. Things almost never go as planned.

And remember, human biology is many times more complex than machines. We can transplant hair just like we can transplant the heart. But we can not currently grow a 100% properly working heart like we can't grow a properly working hair follicle.

Up to this point, no one has been able to reverse the aging process, only delay it.

And my own prediction is that if someone ever find a preventative cure that works perfectly, the industry would find no need to find a cure for those of us who are already balding/bald since we would be the last. Not that I am hoping for it to be this way.

[ytterligare]

And my own prediction is that if someone ever find a preventative cure that works perfectly, the industry would find no need to find a cure for those of us who are already balding/bald since we would be the last. Not that I am hoping for it to be this way.

well the good thing is, if this Taiwanese method works out we won't really need a preventative cure anymore. Of course a single treatment which is capable of saving all of your hair till your death would be the cherry on the cake as it's probably cheaper than getting cells injected a few times, but likely no one will wait for that when it's possible to turn a NW7 into a NW0 for less than 10k dollars one day.

I highly doubt that they find a cure for the general causes BEFORE having a cure for the symptoms.

[nasazl1]

nasalz1,

And my own prediction is that if someone ever find a preventative cure that works perfectly, the industry would find no need to find a cure for those of us who are already balding/bald since we would be the last. Not that I am hoping for it to be this way.

Locke999 - your last paragraph is very true and why I say if this hair cloning by Taiwan does not work then it is game over for the current hair thinning generation since if they find a way to avoid losing hair--and I think this will more than likely be the case--then the rest of us are the last to lose. Since no profit in developing a real hair cure for the last of us. It is unfortunate but true.

That is why I say This Is It For Me. If Taiwan does not work out, game over. Also, L'Orneal stated they may have a preventive pill for grey hair out in 2015-note, preventative thus if you already have grey hair it will not work. If true, it means people with normal color hair just take a pill and will always have their natural color hair whereas those who have grey hair will have to dye it (or not).

But regardless of non disclosure agreement, remember it is a University and much less likely to sue someone just because they mentioned their results, and if it does not work then who is going to care if they tell other people.

This it it. Life comes down to a few moments and for me at least this one hair trial, and I know what the odds are but it is all I've got. Either way just let me know the results in June/July.

[nasazl1]

Just remember this, if they find a preventative cure BEFORE people lose their hair then it is forever game over for us. I think Taiwan is our only hope and we will know 3-4 months. Since, I think a Preventative treatment will simply be a Pill that could be discovered at anytime whereas growing a hundred thousand Organs on your head is much more complicated.

I am an optimist but I truly believe Taiwan is the only hope.

well the good thing is, if this Taiwanese method works out we won't really need a preventative cure anymore. Of course a single treatment which is capable of saving all of your hair till your death would be the cherry on the cake as it's probably cheaper than getting cells injected a few times, but likely no one will wait for that when it's possible to turn a NW7 into a NW0 for less than 10k dollars one day.

I highly doubt that they find a cure for the general causes BEFORE having a cure for the symptoms.

[Sogeking]

Just remember this, if they find a preventative cure BEFORE people lose their hair then it is forever game over for us. I think Taiwan is our only hope and we will know 3-4 months. Since, I think a Preventative treatment will simply be a Pill that could be discovered at anytime whereas growing a hundred thousand Organs on your head is much more complicated.

I am an optimist but I truly believe Taiwan is the only hope.

You won't know anything until they release their trial results and that might take 1-2 years. Besides we don't know exactly when they started, we don't know how many phases they will have, and if those patients signed non disclosure agreement we won't know anything.
ON top of that normal plans get delayed so the trials might get prolonged. That is why we need to connect with someone in Taiwan. Who can at least here and there keep us in the loop by asking around in Taiwan or on their own web forums and social media( Asians have their own forums and some have their own social media sites).

[TravisB]

Just remember this, if they find a preventative cure BEFORE people lose their hair then it is forever game over for us. I think Taiwan is our only hope and we will know 3-4 months. Since, I think a Preventative treatment will simply be a Pill that could be discovered at anytime whereas growing a hundred thousand Organs on your head is much more complicated.

I am an optimist but I truly believe Taiwan is the only hope.

That's a good point

When they find a preventative cure there will be NO NEED to find a regrowth cure

New generations will have hairloss problem solved forever, but the existing baldies will have to die bald anyways

I'm 24 and I'm convinced that my generation will be the last generation to suffer from hairloss

Maybe some kind of a cure will come in my 50s or 60s but then I'll be too old to care

[Westonci]

Lets just say theoretically in 3-6 months we find out that hair is indeed growing with good quality (density, color, angle etc.)

And so we technically "cured" baldness.

Instead of waiting for clinical trials. Would it be possible to fast track this procedure in countries like India?

[TravisB]

Lets just say theoretically in 3-6 months we find out that hair is indeed growing with good quality (density, color, angle etc.)

And so we technically "cured" baldness.

Instead of waiting for clinical trials. Would it be possible to fast track this procedure in countries like India?

Why 3-6 months? If it's FDA Phase I trial (is it?), it should take 1-2 years at least.

Even on the trial site it says "Estimated study completion date: December 2016"

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT00506636

[ytterligare]

When they find a preventative cure there will be NO NEED to find a regrowth cure

New generations will have hairloss problem solved forever, but the existing baldies will have to die bald anyways

that's an interesting theory, but we have to remember that not only MPB "baldies" are interested in hair multiplication / regrowth techniques. Just think of people who lost their hair due to an accident or people who simply want to embellish their native hairline or density without getting scars caused by a conventional hair transplant. Or think about women who suffer way more than men from thin hair. Think about men that are irrelevant about their hair loss in early stages (or don't notice/care timely) and want their hair back after all. Think about people who are not ready (or able) to take one pill a day (if it is one) or repeat a treatment regularly (if it is one) or don't respond to the treatment. As for me, i think it's very unlikely that a preventative cure without side-effects which is capable of helping EVERYONE (be it man or women, MPB or non-MPB patient, child or adult) to keep 100% of one's hair, will appear out of thin air before we have hair multiplication available.

Also remember that hair multiplication is aiming at developing a permanent solution against hair loss as a single treatment. We won't be able to stop hair loss from inside without a regular intervention into our hormones or the chemistry in our scalp. At least not until we can manipulate our genes.

[burtandernie]

I agree with most of what you say but I would personally much prefer a preventive cure to help me keep my hair verses a much bigger invasive procedure that costs a lot more money to get my hair back after its gone. Yeah though a true cure will be something like hair multiplication or something along that line but its going to be much more expensive, time consuming and so on compared to just keeping your hair.
Personally I dont want to take a drug and I want a topical even if its more a hassle to use if its safer.

[nasazl1]

Ytterligare excellent points.

The one thing that WE can say positive about hair loss that WHEN a treatment is found it will dramatically help other researchers in Stem Cell research such as how to grow teeth, and everything else. Due to us many other human health conditions will be solved and we are helping to stop human misery across multiple conditions in a big way. Told you I was an optimist.

Now if Taiwan can just quickly wrap this up.

Not sure if this is a Phase I, I was told Studies really do not have much Science thus maybe that term used in the story is wrong. But also just since the study is through Dec/2016 does not mean it could not end sooner, hopefully for the better. Or, if is just considered a Cosmetic Surgery, as they are calling it, then is it possible it could only take a very short time to be approved? Just a hope.

Anyways, to me, this trial is it.

that's an interesting theory, but we have to remember that not only MPB "baldies" are interested in hair multiplication / regrowth techniques. Just think of people who lost their hair due to an accident or people who simply want to embellish their native hairline or density without getting scars caused by a conventional hair transplant. Or think about women who suffer way more than men from thin hair. Think about men that are irrelevant about their hair loss in early stages (or don't notice/care timely) and want their hair back after all. Think about people who are not ready (or able) to take one pill a day (if it is one) or repeat a treatment regularly (if it is one) or don't respond to the treatment. As for me, i think it's very unlikely that a preventative cure without side-effects which is capable of helping EVERYONE (be it man or women, MPB or non-MPB patient, child or adult) to keep 100% of one's hair, will appear out of thin air before we have hair multiplication available.

Also remember that hair multiplication is aiming at developing a permanent solution against hair loss as a single treatment. We won't be able to stop hair loss from inside without a regular intervention into our hormones or the chemistry in our scalp. At least not until we can manipulate our genes.