Local Antiandrogen Therapy for the Treatment of Male Pattern Baldness

[burtandernie]

Yeah that might be true, but it would be because of the much larger market for it. Why do you think every single company goes for acne and then MPB after that? Acne affects both men and women so much more money there.

[strife91]

Assuming RU is reliable from kane there is a lot more to it then just that. I dont know how or want to mix chemical mixtures in my basement and have no idea what im doing. Even something simple sounding like mixing RU into ethanol/PG vehicle is not easy and I have no idea if it even works or safe. Its not worth doing to me I want to buy it ready to use and tested working.

Dude if u want to keep your hair I suggest u at least give it a try . It's not ideal but the treatments we have are all bs. If women went bald like men do it would have been cured long ago

[hiilikeyourbeard]

Assuming RU is reliable from kane there is a lot more to it then just that. I dont know how or want to mix chemical mixtures in my basement and have no idea what im doing. Even something simple sounding like mixing RU into ethanol/PG vehicle is not easy and I have no idea if it even works or safe. Its not worth doing to me I want to buy it ready to use and tested working.

it's harder to make boxed Mac n cheese...

[burtandernie]

Assuming RU is reliable from kane there is a lot more to it then just that. I dont know how or want to mix chemical mixtures in my basement and have no idea what im doing. Even something simple sounding like mixing RU into ethanol/PG vehicle is not easy and I have no idea if it even works or safe. Its not worth doing to me I want to buy it ready to use and tested working.

[chimera]

Well I dont know that kane is reliable I mean I dont even know how a person tests that. They are licensed, inspected annually for conditions, and all of that? Its a complicated thing here in the US if they are overseas its a whole different ball game. How do you know it never goes systemic if it even gets absorbed well enough to work? Its just too many unknowns to me to be worth using because its just as risky if not more so then propecia. Again just IMO I could be wrong im not an expert on any of this its not my job or hobby

Go with kane. You are not the first guy with those questions on his mind. A lot of guys have gone their way trying to find if he is reliable or not. Many of his products have been tested over and over again for third parties.

[burtandernie]

A proven topical that is generally safe is what we all have been waiting for you could just take it for the hell of it in case you might go bald years from then. It would make picking a treatment worth using a whole lot easier.

[burtandernie]

Kane. About as reliable as it gets. I wouldnt buy anywhere else. Vehicle has been known for a while; ethanol/PG.

Well I dont know that kane is reliable I mean I dont even know how a person tests that. They are licensed, inspected annually for conditions, and all of that? Its a complicated thing here in the US if they are overseas its a whole different ball game. How do you know it never goes systemic if it even gets absorbed well enough to work? Its just too many unknowns to me to be worth using because its just as risky if not more so then propecia. Again just IMO I could be wrong im not an expert on any of this its not my job or hobby

[kissmyscalp]

LOL once again, acnea before MBP. This is a ****ing joke. I'm going crazy.

Imagine a topical AA. Not only people with MBP will buy it but all the paranoid people who think losing their hair because they have seen one in their shower. And that every month. This is BILLIONS OF DOLLARS !

SO WTF?!

[hellouser]

I would love to use RU, but I have a few issues. Safety? Reliable supplier? Good vehicle that works? If your wrong on any of this you could be in big trouble. If some reliable place sold it and there were some decent study showing it doesnt go systemic I would have been taking it a long time ago

Kane. About as reliable as it gets. I wouldnt buy anywhere else. Vehicle has been known for a while; ethanol/PG.

[burtandernie]

I would love to use RU, but I have a few issues. Safety? Reliable supplier? Good vehicle that works? If your wrong on any of this you could be in big trouble. If some reliable place sold it and there were some decent study showing it doesnt go systemic I would have been taking it a long time ago

[hiilikeyourbeard]

just use RU. which is a local antiandrogen. until something better comes along

[burtandernie]

How long until this comes out like 2015 maybe? Man that seems short when your talking approval, but 2 years is such a long time. I might have to try propecia I dont know if I can wait that long. Then its for acne so it probably wont even work for MPB

[burtandernie]

Like someone else was saying I think a huge part of why so many topical AAs fail to work that well is just lack of penetration and absorption. I think stuff like topical spiro and other treatments that exist right now would work many times better if they had better delivery systems like with Iontophoresis that cosmo used in their studies where a few things besides just CB worked really well.

[Tenma]

Right,but you will be nw7+ when this comes out

There is no such thing as a nw7+ lol. Your pessimism is keeping you away from common sense. If you are nw 4-7, you should wait for pilofocus. Topicals alone probably wont make the difference.

[Tenma]

We only need one good safe topical AA whether this or CB to basically make MPB a preventable problem. Why its taken 20 years to get something like this since propecia I really dont know but better late then never

Its unbelievable the slow pace of AGA treatments. Apparently 2016/2020 its going to be this new "era" of topical antiandrogens. RU studies are from the early-mid 90s! Which means scientist and biotechs companies were both aware of how to prevent this ****in' problem.

Hell, since Hamilton studies we know the impact of androgen suppression on hair mantainance.

SB-204 will come sooner than CB, hopefully. They plan to present phase 2 results early next year. I'm a little angry with cosmo, though. they restarted trials with cb despite their phase two success in europe.

If we use this stuff together and maybe add finasteride we can certainly lower the androgen stimulus sufficient enough for a very long time.