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You can't compare Aderans, Intercytex, etc., to a scam. Those were very regulated products that couldn't give a damn if you adored them or wanted them to be brought down, their results were going to speak for themselves.
I can't say just being hopeful doesn't make you gullible. With Pilox, it's difficult to say, but only a complete newbie would fall to something like habemu's potion, and we had a couple here.
The problem with scams or possible scams is that just blindly supporting one or not speaking against it makes a lot of damage, a lot of guys that have went to Nigam or Gho just did it because of the free publicity they received in hair loss forums, I bet a majority of them didn't even went for the experimental proceduresComment
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For me the difference between Pilox and Nigam was that Nigam was charging people for his unproven procedures and at the same time making all sorts of grandiose claims about what he could do for hair loss sufferers. He changed protocols, he posted ridiculous photos, the hair counts made no sense, etc. He was encouraging people to travel to India for procedures, and no doubt using the attention and publicity he was getting abroad to boost his credibility among the Indian public. Anyone offering an unproven procedure should do so at no charge or at cost as part of a trial with the understanding of the patient that the procedure's efficacy has not yet been proven. At least the folks behind Pilox weren't selling anything yet (notwithstanding this business about the shady Russian website), they're not making grandiose "stop the presses, we found the cure" statements, and for the moment, they sound serious about gathering proof of efficacy. For now, I am willing to consider the possibility that they might have something.Comment
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Well, I stated I might go back to HASCI (depending on development of other therapies), while my standpoint is and has been now for a while, that there's no regrowth, or very little. So how am I in denial exactly ? I just want scarless surgery and right now the only option is HASCI for that. For me, regular FUE with microscarring is just no option cause I like to wear my hair very short.Comment
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Yeah, where are the likes of Too young to retire , and Veca
I contacted Nigam's office last year and they were very quick to respond. I tried at the beginning of this year and nothing.
I really did hope he might have been on to something, particularly when Mwamba got involved, but seems like Nigam is another charlatanComment
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This is from another forum about the device:
In a nutshell It's a device with six metal disks and serve (So i was told, I cannot feel it) some ions/pulses
No needles
the disks are somewhat rugged - like a chainsaw
to my understanding the trick is the copper/zinc coated metal plates delivering the goods via ions and making a new dht free surrounding if that makes senseComment
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This was supposed to hit market in 8 months. January's almost over so there's about 7 months left. If this isn't legit I think I'm just gonna bite the bullet and get on propecia.Comment
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Get on propecia now.
I tried it for 2 weeks, had side effects, stopped taking it, now back to normal.
I waited, and tried to take it again, had side effects again, stopped taking, and back to normal again.
It didn't work for me but you might as well try the best thing out there right now instead of waiting until your hair get worst.Comment
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We're not allowed to comment here on photo's placed in the private forum but I can say this now (without going into details) : where I previously thought 70% chance of things not going to proof to be something real, I'm now at 95%. vraf pretty much made my case and confirmed my suspicions. I'm not 100% sure yet pilox doesn't work at all (it might work a bit), but at this point I am 99.9% sure at least vraf is working together with Pilox and trying to boast their (marginal) results. I don't think anybody with a decent brain can deny that at this point.
History repeating itself over and over again ...Comment
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