piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[cotto]

wtf i just translate the site in russian and they are offering the treatment already:

"Package "Home"
Suitable for regions
You get home kit and use it at home.
Set is sufficient for 2-4 months of use .
buy
9999 rubles.
Package "Complex "
Suitable for Moscow
Come 8 sessions 1 time per week .
Using home kits for fixing effect.
buy
from 37 999 rub .
Package «VIP»
Suitable for Moscow
Pass 2 16 treatments per week.
Specialist coming to see you at your convenient time and place
buy
149 999 rubles"

I´ve changed my mind, it looks as a nigamer....... so sad!!
Pics are in the other forum ***.
The full site translated by google:



Hair Restoration System
from Israel
Do you want to restore your hair , make them thicker
2 months , the salon or at home?
And all this without surgery and contraindications ?
Leave a request today and get free trial procedure
Time left to buy :
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84% noticed positive changes after treatment
Development Laboratory DR. M. BURSTEIN
15 years of experience in hair restoration
2 years of successful clinical trials
The system is certified in the Russian Federation
How are we going to restore hair?
You spend micro- needle therapy (micro - punctures in the scalp to 0.7 mm)
and then applied up special preparations for stimulating hair growth *
* Developer technology hair restoration physician triholog Yoram Benita (Israel)
How we are going to act ?

You leave a request.
Our operator binds
with you and answers
Your questions
We analyze the state of
Your hair.
You do first
free procedure .
You are undergoing restoration .
We record the result
after the course.

On all products
are certified
Possibility of treatment at home
guarantee fair
measurement result

Leave a request today
and get free trial procedure
5 major problems faced by people reshivshiesya on hair treatment .

Some clinics hair is not very interested in the success of the treatment of the client. They are more focused on making money .
Almost all standard procedures : Mesotherapy , plazmoterapiya , ointments, creams, shampoos .
Competitors do not measured before and after. They often have to verbally convince the customer that their treatment worked.
Some clinics pass procedure is expensive and not efficient enough .
No possibility undergo treatment only at home.
If treated using meso and plasma therapies , it is very painful.

Our version of the solutions to your problems
Yoram Benita
Yoram Benita
(Yoram Benitah)

Technology from Israel.
Company proizvodstel - Dr. M. Burstein works in the field of
Natural cosmetics for over 25 years.
We found the method that is
the most effective among other methods .
Technology developer hair restoration physician triholog
Yoram Benita (Yoram Benitah).
Founder of Israeli Hair Clinic -
triholog leading international class.
Without surgery and contraindications.
Suitable for most cases of hair thinning .
Lotion safe and hypoallergenic , and does not contain minoxidil hormones.
We really want to restore your hair . You will notice that it will cost inexpensive.
You pay for each procedure , and not for the entire course ( all 8 sessions 1 time per week ) .
We give an objective picture .
Measure hair density , thickness and their growth rate.
It works.
We are not afraid to measure results before and after treatment .
86 % reported that their hair was much thicker after 8 treatments .
Possibility of home treatment .
In our treatment has rules by which a client can only be treated at home.
If a client needs intensive restoration , the most frequent he would have come
1 times a week for 2 months.

Feedback from our customers

before After
I have visited the most famous clinics in Moscow, but they were more concerned about making money than the result . In April 2012, I tried a new Israeli technology and in 2 months I felt the results ...
Denis , 31, Moscow
before After
I did not think that I have something to be, because I am no longer a young girl. Hair comb became much smaller. All girlfriend noticed that my hair has become thicker. Thank you!
Alla , 58, Moscow

So, your choice:

Package "Home"
Suitable for regions
You get home kit and use it at home.
Set is sufficient for 2-4 months of use .
buy
9999 rubles.
Package "Complex "
Suitable for Moscow
Come 8 sessions 1 time per week .
Using home kits for fixing effect.
buy
from 37 999 rub .
Package «VIP»
Suitable for Moscow
Pass 2 16 treatments per week.
Specialist coming to see you at your convenient time and place
buy
149 999 rubles.

Yoram Benita
technology developer
hair Restoration
doctor trichologist
Yoram Benita (Israel)
2009-2013 © thick hair
TIN 771602679628
OGRIP 304770000112328
Moscow, Large Novodmitrovskaya street, house 36 c12
Any questions? Call!
8499677 22 13
8 800 100 14 56
Request a call back
Leave a request today and get free trial procedure

[porta]

a lot of dumd guys here, the treatment in this russian website ITS NOT PILOX.

[robodoc]

Ugh.... that site has just evaporated nearly all my hope for this now. It has charlatan written all over it, just like nigam. **** sake. Oh well... next.

It could do something so I would not write it off yet but so many claim success we have to wait til the product is out and tested. I am not affected by the claims.

[UK_]

LOLOL this is getting comical now.

Yoham the Jedi Warrior.

[clarence]

LOLOL this is getting comical now.

Yoham the Jedi Warrior.

YOU are comical, those reading the thread givin' you the "How old are you"-look

[cotto]

a lot of dumd guys here, the treatment in this russian website ITS NOT PILOX.

can you argument that please, mr. knowitall? I see it says is a microneedleing method so i supposed it is piloxll, but if you can defeat it isn´t better for me and all body here, so please do it!!

[Kiwi]

If it does turn out to be snake oil I think we need to leave an anonymous message to homeland security, give them the address in Isreal, and make them believe it's a Taliban strong hold and that they need to bomb the shit out of them!!!

[Atum]

+1 Kiwi
Maybe if you say it's a hezbollah network they will actually do it.

[Arashi]

If it does turn out to be snake oil I think we need to leave an anonymous message to homeland security, give them the address in Isreal, and make them believe it's a Taliban strong hold and that they need to bomb the shit out of them!!!

I'm getting more and more convinced it's a scam. Yoram got tons of questions regarding that Russian site, he totally ignored them ! When asked about the current treatments he said he didnt want to go into that because he thought it might come off as 'promotion'. He's involved with a clinic that sells snake oil and then that whole story about that booklet with photo's at the hairdresser ...

It's all just TOO weird, so many things not adding up ... Still can't say anything for certain, but it's all getting weirder and weirder ...

[greatjob!]

To me this looks like another example of people using keywords to drum up interest and sell a product. When Histogen and others started experimenting with growth factors, you saw all of these products coming out trying to capitalize on that by selling products containing "growth factors". Since Cots research and Follica's work I'm sure we are going to start to see things popping up using the keyword "wounding", which I think is what this product/treatment is. I mean from what I can gather from the info so far there isn't any actual wounding going on, so how do you wound without wounding? I guess it's some new magical wounding technique...

[GuyFromUK]

a lot of dumd guys here, the treatment in this russian website ITS NOT PILOX.

It's interesting how this is the 1st post you have made on the forum. You have registered a BTT account to tell everyone they are dumb for not believing this product when it clearly is the same one. Do you possibly work for Yoram.

[porta]

It's interesting how this is the 1st post you have made on the forum. You have registered a BTT account to tell everyone they are dumb for not believing this product when it clearly is the same one. Do you possibly work for Yoram.

No, they are dumb to relate this "russian treatment" with pilox.

Read the patent and you'll find that pilox has absolutely nothing with a dermapen device.

[DanWS]

No, they are dumb to relate this "russian treatment" with pilox.

Read the patent and you'll find that pilox has absolutely nothing with a dermapen device.

Oh intelligent one, please do forgive us mere Neanderthals for being completely unreasonable in adding two and two together in this situation (that's about all we can manage anyway). How dare we even attempt to connect the dots?! It is of absolutely NO significance that the same guy who is supposedly behind Piloxll is also pioneering another similar treatment via an overly dodgy site in Russian that has charlatan and scam and snake oil written all over it. I mean who cares about his other ventures, right? Who gives a damn if he's involved in taking advantage of the very people who come to forums like this looking for a cure? Piloxll is completely unrelated so we'll just brush this whole little embarrassing Russian episode under the carpet... and we'll try not to be so dumb in the future.

[Julian P]

Oh intelligent one, please do forgive us mere Neanderthals for being completely unreasonable in adding two and two together in this situation (that's about all we can manage anyway). How dare we even attempt to connect the dots?! It is of absolutely NO significance that the same guy who is supposedly behind Piloxll is also pioneering another similar treatment via an overly dodgy site in Russian that has charlatan and scam and snake oil written all over it. I mean who cares about his other ventures, right? Who gives a damn if he's involved in taking advantage of the very people who come to forums like this looking for a cure? Piloxll is completely unrelated so we'll just brush this whole little embarrassing Russian episode under the carpet... and we'll try not to be so dumb in the future.

Haha, well said. I was slightly positive about this in the beginning, but after seeing that website that's completely gone.

Still wondering what they used to get the results in the pictures though, if fin would get me these results, I might as well go over to the "dark side".

[NeedHairASAP]

To me this looks like another example of people using keywords to drum up interest and sell a product. When Histogen and others started experimenting with growth factors, you saw all of these products coming out trying to capitalize on that by selling products containing "growth factors". Since Cots research and Follica's work I'm sure we are going to start to see things popping up using the keyword "wounding", which I think is what this product/treatment is. I mean from what I can gather from the info so far there isn't any actual wounding going on, so how do you wound without wounding? I guess it's some new magical wounding technique...

You can wound with lasers.... non-dermarolling wounding is possible.... and has been confirmed by people other than Yoram and Pilox team.


Pilox and the other treatment are not the same product.

The descriptions of Pilox do not match the video shown on the russian website AT ALL.

On top of that, Yoram has distinguished pilox from the other treatment

Therefore, the russian treatment is not pilox.

That doesn't mean that Yoram's involvement in this other treatment isn't worrying, but the russian site and it's treatment ARE DEFINITELY NOT PILOX.

Rather than speculate, I think we need to try and learn more and more.

AGAIN, that being said, its worrying that Yoram is involved with the russian site. BUT, as always, lets wait to see what happens.... the pictures are very good, and the idea behind it has legs. If it's not out in 8 months and yoram still hasn't published or offered anymore conclusive evidence, then we can worry....

we've been waiting since the begining of time for a cure, and only up to a couple months ago, had no end in sight--- so I think we can wait 8 months.