piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[oppenheimer82]

guys, i created this thread to discuss this new, interesting method. please take your discussion about gho, nigam etc etc elsewhere. for example to the 1000 other threads on this forum. thank you.

[FearTheLoss]

At that price though you may as well go to Dr. Gho for *some* regeneration, no? And is Dr Rahal still not scarless?

First of OP, this piloxll is fake...


secondly, Hell...I don't believe there is any donor regeneration from Gho to be honest. Second of all, I'm never going to shave my donor below a 1-2 guard...third off, I want a Rahal hairline...he is the best in the industry and the hairline is the most important part..in the future as my loss progresses I will go for pilofocus, more than likely (hopefully Rahal offers too) as there is going to be some regen..and it's scarless...then if things get out of hand I will throw smp all around the head..I'm attacking this beast and not ever giving in...I have confident in future treatments..we will have something better soon...but I am going all out on transplants to enjoy these years while I'm young.

[Thinning87]

you guys are ridiculous...

CB- should be a lot better than fin, should be out in 2016 best case, more likely 2017-2018.

histogen- better than fin and minox, should be released in asia in 2015-2016

bim- better than minox, should be released in 2015 IN THE USA.

follica- has grown human hair on bald scalp via wounding, already been through phase I/II trails...adding FGF9 to see if they can get better results...could very well be out in 3 years IN THE USA....as a cure

PILOFOCUS- scarless hair transplant, should be available in the USA within 6-7 months...WITH DONOR REGENERATION....we just don't know how significant the regeneration is yet...although Artista said the regen pics were "breathtaking"

PRP- some doctors, including Dr. Wesley are beginning to have more success with this as they toy with the dosage and amount of injections

Replicel- supposed to be releasing a product in asia in 2015, seems like it's going to be more towards 2016 though. Their results are still better than fin/minox...also they just got a huge investor after they showed their 12 month results to them...could be a sign that they got better results at 12 months

many doctors are getting some sort of regeneration..it's just a matter of getting it consistently...all we need is 50%+ regen to cure most nw5...and 7% to cure most nw6...85% to cure nw7

Not to mention, SMP...SMP is showing to be a great addition to add the visual effect of density...(look at joe's video in the SMP section)

You know I wish this were true more than most things in life, but we have to be more conservative. What you're describing is all best case scenario. You can't rely on these timelines, we've all seen histogen's original timelines from a few years ago, or how replicel thought they had it and then had the phase 1 results they showed, or Follica claiming they might have it within 2 years...

Truth is, a full blown cure will eventually come true, but only from the tsuji/christiano/Jahoda teams. In other words, there is no doubt the stem cell research being done will give us the ultimate cure. But all this stuff is in its infancy and it'll take 10 years BEST case scenario...

In the meantime, we have all our hopes in replicel and Follica. Yeah histogen might be great especially if with a good ht to replenish donor area etc. etc. but in reality the only potential treatments can come from these two companies as they are the only ones left working for the full cure.

Putting topical anti-dht on your head won't bring hair back, or at least a sufficient amount for decent looks. It will be great for my cousin who is ten years younger though... But for us, don't even rely on it.

So go for the hair transplant if you want, but I recommend everyone try going with a shaved head first. It's so liberating and you really do forget about it within a few days.

[rdawg]

yup...had to pull the trigger hell, I want to live my life to the fullest and I don't want hairloss to hamper that. I am getting 1700 grafts FUE and it cost me somewhere around 13k I believe...


I can't tell you how excited I am to have Dr. Rahal doing my hairline.

Ive read good things about him but wow that price is ridiculous for a student like me!!

If I had the funds to get one I would, but there's no way im doing a scar FUT one which is still 5-8000 bucks

Is there ANY hope that FUE Ht's become cheaper?

[hellouser]

First of OP, this piloxll is fake...

Source to confirm??

secondly, Hell...I don't believe there is any donor regeneration from Gho to be honest. Second of all, I'm never going to shave my donor below a 1-2 guard...third off, I want a Rahal hairline...he is the best in the industry and the hairline is the most important part..in the future as my loss progresses I will go for pilofocus, more than likely (hopefully Rahal offers too) as there is going to be some regen..and it's scarless...then if things get out of hand I will throw smp all around the head..I'm attacking this beast and not ever giving in...I have confident in future treatments..we will have something better soon...but I am going all out on transplants to enjoy these years while I'm young.

Hmmm... well, I cant say I have much to comment on. Well I do, but I dont want to annoy the OP.

[Amercancer]

RU

Sorry guys, this is off topic but I've ordered RU and would love done feed backs on it. Please let me know if I should let it get here caused if it'd not worth it I'll cancer it. Also how should I mix it?

[Amercancer]

RU

Correction:Sorry guys, this is off topic but I've ordered RU and would love some feed back on it. Please let me know if I should let it get here cause if it's not worth it I'll cancel it. Also how should I mix it?

[Dazza]

Correction:Sorry guys, this is off topic but I've ordered RU and would love some feed back on it. Please let me know if I should let it get here cause if it's not worth it I'll cancel it. Also how should I mix it?

There are plenty of RU threads, please post your questions there. Don't derail threads. The search function is easy to use.

Back on topic:
Did the two chaps who joined the trial get their devices? Have they both stopped posting here?

[tonypizza]

Thanks for the summary FearTheLoss.

To me, the most interesting results will come from Follica. Since they patented the device we've yet to see their results (unless I am mistaken). If they didn't have an ace in the hole (proof of concept in some form) you'd think they'd have long ago given up the ghost.

[simba]

You know I wish this were true more than most things in life, but we have to be more conservative. What you're describing is all best case scenario. You can't rely on these timelines, we've all seen histogen's original timelines from a few years ago, or how replicel thought they had it and then had the phase 1 results they showed, or Follica claiming they might have it within 2 years...

Truth is, a full blown cure will eventually come true, but only from the tsuji/christiano/Jahoda teams. In other words, there is no doubt the stem cell research being done will give us the ultimate cure. But all this stuff is in its infancy and it'll take 10 years BEST case scenario...

In the meantime, we have all our hopes in replicel and Follica. Yeah histogen might be great especially if with a good ht to replenish donor area etc. etc. but in reality the only potential treatments can come from these two companies as they are the only ones left working for the full cure.

Putting topical anti-dht on your head won't bring hair back, or at least a sufficient amount for decent looks. It will be great for my cousin who is ten years younger though... But for us, don't even rely on it.

So go for the hair transplant if you want, but I recommend everyone try going with a shaved head first. It's so liberating and you really do forget about it within a few days.

Im guessing youre a nw7 in which case yeah youve got a while to go. For guy like me who are basically nw1 with a tiny bit of recession all the stuff coming out in the next couple of years are as good as a cure. Anything that halts further loss without executing my penis will be a god send.

[simba]

you guys are ridiculous...

CB- should be a lot better than fin, should be out in 2016 best case, more likely 2017-2018.

histogen- better than fin and minox, should be released in asia in 2015-2016

bim- better than minox, should be released in 2015 IN THE USA.

follica- has grown human hair on bald scalp via wounding, already been through phase I/II trails...adding FGF9 to see if they can get better results...could very well be out in 3 years IN THE USA....as a cure

PILOFOCUS- scarless hair transplant, should be available in the USA within 6-7 months...WITH DONOR REGENERATION....we just don't know how significant the regeneration is yet...although Artista said the regen pics were "breathtaking"

PRP- some doctors, including Dr. Wesley are beginning to have more success with this as they toy with the dosage and amount of injections

Replicel- supposed to be releasing a product in asia in 2015, seems like it's going to be more towards 2016 though. Their results are still better than fin/minox...also they just got a huge investor after they showed their 12 month results to them...could be a sign that they got better results at 12 months

many doctors are getting some sort of regeneration..it's just a matter of getting it consistently...all we need is 50%+ regen to cure most nw5...and 7% to cure most nw6...85% to cure nw7

Not to mention, SMP...SMP is showing to be a great addition to add the visual effect of density...(look at joe's video in the SMP section)

Also we dont need to wait for CB to be released commercially, if we can see what vehicle they used for phase 2 trials then wed be sorted

[the_dude78]

Sorry guys, this is off topic but I've ordered RU and would love done feed backs on it. Please let me know if I should let it get here caused if it'd not worth it I'll cancer it. Also how should I mix it?

Everything but the first post is off topic in this thread. Nice try though, Oppenheimer82.

Any news from the guys who suddenly became part of the trials?

[Thinning87]

Im guessing youre a nw7 in which case yeah youve got a while to go. For guy like me who are basically nw1 with a tiny bit of recession all the stuff coming out in the next couple of years are as good as a cure. Anything that halts further loss without executing my penis will be a god send.

Nah dude I'm 25 and nw1 just like you although my thinning makes it necessary for me to use thickening shampoos now before going anywhere important.

We will have to wait a while before we can use the new products, thats what I'm saying. We will be nw7 when they come out

[rdawg]

I still dont exactly understand what this piloxll stuff is. Can anyone explain the science and technique behind it?

[Winston]

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