piloxll:new israeli method combines wounding+ zi/cu ions to destroy dht in the scalp

[NeedHairASAP]

wow, this is the real deal.

[zeos]

wow, this is the real deal.

please enlighten us

[Sogeking]

wow, this is the real deal.

You should at least try to to backup your claims. Otherwise... you might be trolling.

[zeos]

can somebody please ask Yoram Benit if he is willing to collaborate/cooperate with respectable dermatologists outside of Israel for Pilox trials?

i hope he can help us,we're all desperate.

thanks in advance!!!!

[chimera]

4. “And how much longer until it completes testing so we can purchase it?” -The current tests has nothing to do with marketing. The product will be out in a year. Maximum.

7. “Is he just now starting Pillox 5 and if he is do we have to wait years before it's marketed and we can use it?” – In a year.

Just one year more does not sound so bad. Does not sound so bad at all. I know this new treatment is almost surely another scam, like 99% of new traetments released. But as someone who is seeing results with the dermaroller, I have to say this is fairly exciting.

[PaddyBateman]

Just one year more does not sound so bad. Does not sound so bad at all. I know this new treatment is almost surely another scam, like 99% of new traetments released. But as someone who is seeing results with the dermaroller, I have to say this is fairly exciting.

You are excited by a future treatment you are almost sure is a scam?

[chimera]

Yeah.. it is hard to think this this is not a scam... because let's face it, every new treatment is a scam... but this treatment is to be like an improved version of the dermaroller, a device capable of making even wider wounds (the size of the wound is very important)... and I am already seeing results with the normal dermaroller... so I just can't help it...

[Kiwi]

can somebody please ask Yoram Benit if he is willing to collaborate/cooperate with respectable dermatologists outside of Israel for Pilox trials?

i hope he can help us,we're all desperate.

thanks in advance!!!!

Maybe our they will be like **** you America for always screwing us over :P

[burtandernie]

I will just flat out say I dont believe anything until it goes through trials, or has published peer reviewed studies/research. Way too much false info and hype to waste time believing in another pie in the sky cure. This kind of stuff appears out of nowhere like every other month

[NeedHairASAP]

I will just flat out say I dont believe anything until it goes through trials, or has published peer reviewed studies/research. Way too much false info and hype to waste time believing in another pie in the sky cure. This kind of stuff appears out of nowhere like every other month

One of the docs invovled in this is doing just that: publishing peer-reviewed

every single test-user is on pilox ONLY-- no minox or propecia results mixed in

results seen in 3-4 months

continued use is neccesary, but is supposedly 5 minutes a day and can be done watching TV

no actual "wounding" per se, but it works off the same mechanisms as wounding

The amazing pics we saw were from pilox II, they are currently on their fifth iteration of the product Pilox V-- which will be released next year. If that was II and this is V, I can only imagine the results it's giving.

The large majority of testers are responding, and well

He is using tichoscans, all of that stuff, very carefully collecting all sorts of data (again he's trying to publish a peer-reviewed article, so)

Doc's involved are from a reputable institute in israel

More updates to come....

[PaddyBateman]

One of the docs invovled in this is doing just that: publishing peer-reviewed

every single test-user is on pilox ONLY-- no minox or propecia results mixed in

results seen in 3-4 months

continued use is neccesary, but is supposedly 5 minutes a day and can be done watching TV

no actual "wounding" per se, but it works off the same mechanisms as wounding

The amazing pics we saw were from pilox II, they are currently on their fifth iteration of the product Pilox V-- which will be released next year. If that was II and this is V, I can only imagine the results it's giving.

The large majority of testers are responding, and well

He is using tichoscans, all of that stuff, very carefully collecting all sorts of data (again he's trying to publish a peer-reviewed article, so)

Doc's involved are from a reputable institute in israel

More updates to come....

Released next year? Is that just the "aim" (which means later), or actually confirmed from the horses mouth?

Very exciting if so.

[chimera]

every single test-user is on pilox ONLY-- no minox or propecia results mixed in

Can you imagine the kind of results you might be able to get combining piloxll with those two?

The amazing pics we saw were from pilox II, they are currently on their fifth iteration of the product Pilox V-- which will be released next year. If that was II and this is V, I can only imagine the results it's giving.

Next year?... is that 2014 0r 2015?

no actual "wounding" per se, but it works off the same mechanisms as wounding

No actual wunding?... then how does it work...?

[Sogeking]

One of the docs invovled in this is doing just that: publishing peer-reviewed

every single test-user is on pilox ONLY-- no minox or propecia results mixed in

results seen in 3-4 months

continued use is neccesary, but is supposedly 5 minutes a day and can be done watching TV

no actual "wounding" per se, but it works off the same mechanisms as wounding

The amazing pics we saw were from pilox II, they are currently on their fifth iteration of the product Pilox V-- which will be released next year. If that was II and this is V, I can only imagine the results it's giving.

The large majority of testers are responding, and well

He is using tichoscans, all of that stuff, very carefully collecting all sorts of data (again he's trying to publish a peer-reviewed article, so)

Doc's involved are from a reputable institute in israel

More updates to come....

I should not be reading this, I don't want to get my hopes up. I just accepted my fate. But hey if this stuff works, it would be cool. Gahhh lets just see, but I remain sceptical.

@chimera

In a different thread now gone, next year was referring to 2014. Have to admit those pics, IF real, were good. I only skimmed them and then the thread was gone so I couldn't look at them in detail.

I mean if there are five iterations already you pass a point in time when you can finance and study something without getting any financial or scientific benefit from it. Thats what happened to Aderans, these guys didn't get funding because their method worked very poorly. I mean at one time in their development process they wanted to test people for specific gene in order to know if their treatment would have any effect.

[cookies]

I'm not sure if the results will be published in a peer reviewed journal. The testing doesn't seem to take place in a controlled environment (testers are given the device and use it at home, two guys from here could join the test at any moment), and I'm also not sure (from what I've read) that tests are double blind. Both these things make me sceptical.
Yoram said he hopes the device should be out in 8 months, but he is not involved in the marketing.

I'm also not sure if the new iterations mean the device works better, it could also mean that it's more easy to use for example.

[hellouser]

I'm also not sure if the new iterations mean the device works better, it could also mean that it's more easy to use for example.

Or cheaper to manufacture.