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[clarence]

We all care... Jarjarbinx get scammed, and we'll all get a break.

[locke999]

You do realize I'm relativating my previous statement. Hellouser made it look like I don't care about people getting scammed. The opposite is true and that's what motivates me. If I only saved one person from going to Nigam and having lost $10.000, damaged his donor and possibly gotten cancer from animal grade serum, then it was all worth it.

Arashi, that's very noble but I unlike you don't give a crap if people get scammed or not. If they do not have common sense, then it's their fault. The only reason I would care is that I don't want the scammers to make any money, as I hate them more.

[Arashi]

lol

You do realize I'm relativating my previous statement. Hellouser made it look like I don't care about people getting scammed. The opposite is true and that's what motivates me. If I only saved one person from going to Nigam and having lost $10.000, damaged his donor and possibly gotten cancer from animal grade serum, then it was all worth it.

[Arashi]

Arashi thanks for your research and expertise. Do you see anything hopeful in the near future for hairloss suffers that looks promising. What do you believe in?

Two years ago, Tsuji lab took adult DP cells from human donors, basically combined them with epithelial cells, also taken from humans and hair grew: http://www.tsuji-lab.com/en/pdf/Toyo...ncomms1784.pdf

The problem was getting enough of those DP cells: DP cells, unlike the epithelial cells, couldn't be expanded in culture. So, the only last part of the puzzle remained: how to get enough DP cells.

Jahoda showed last year that DP cells CAN be cultured and still be used, unfortunately his method wasn't good enough yet and has to be improved. An other group of researchers in Taiwan has developed a slightly alternate method to culture DP cells and is going to start clinical trials soon: http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=15412

There are several groups looking into this last part of the puzzle. Tsuji lab themselves are also not sitting still. They're looking into an alternative source of DP cells: stem cells. Another group of researchers showed us recently that they could take skin cells, convert them into stem cells and then differentiate those into epethelial cells. If this works for DP cells in a similar way, then that's also a solution to the problem.

So, basically, we're just 1 step away from a REAL cure and there are even 2 different possible paths that lead to that cure: culturing DP cells and differentiating stem cells into DP cells. Several groups of researchers are working on it. Clinical trials are even starting soon. I'm confident that we'll have a cure, at least at the preclinical level, within 2 years. Of course it would still need to go through clinical trials, but you can bet your ass that there will be alternatives available in less regulated countries, once the science is out. Of course that's theoretically dangerous but not all those non western doctors are Nigams ...

[HairBane]

If you still believe there's something real here, man, then you DESERVE to get scammed.

Of course nobody 'deserves' to get scammed.

lol

[deuce]

Arashi thanks for your research and expertise. Do you see anything hopeful in the near future for hairloss suffers that looks promising. What do you believe in?

[Arashi]

It makes you tired, to the point you wish they get scammed already

And that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. Of course nobody 'deserves' to get scammed. But some of those guys on the hairloss forum just won't listen to reason ... Like how somebody at this point can still defend Nigam (like Freddy555 over at HS still does), is really beyond me ... At some point I'm like, ok then, just go to somebody like Nigam already, have him inject some illegal substances, watch your hair in your donor die and say goodbye to your $10.000. Oh and don't come complaining here if you get diagnosed with cancer a few years after visiting Nigam, because he injected illegal, animal grade serum. You were warned a million times.

[Arashi]

The other person debating you said it was from a tattoo in the thinner region and from what I could see, this was a reasonable explanation.

So you think that's a reasonable explanation, eh ... Then please try to match the blue numbers in this picture that vraf posted:

http://cdn.imghack.se/images/df6f62547f2027bc7215a9bc28ab3b9b.jpg

Good luck with that. Obviously this is a different before-after region. Secondly, this is the colour corrected zoomed out photo: http://postimg.org/image/9bozrpfbt/full/

Now tell me, which one is the before photo and which one is the after photo ? There is NO difference at all ! While there's a huge difference in the macro photo's (which, again, don't even match).

Then, somebody found the russian clinic Yoram works for. Use google translate to navigate: http://www.ihc-russia.ru/therapy/hirudotherapy/ They offer tons of snake oil therapies, even including blood sucking leeches for hair growth.

Really, Nigam is even a better scammer than those guys at Pilox ...

[bigentries]

This kind of mentality is incredibly arrogant. Essentially you are vouching for a social class that feeds off of another's shortcomings. Pretty disgusting if you ask me.

Nobody deserves to be scammed... not unless your name is Dr. Nigam.

Of course no one deserves to be scammed, no one. I hate charlatans, I have several cases in my family, those shaped me as I grew up

It breaks my heart seeing someone I love to be ripped off because of superticious thinking or ignorance against mainstream medicine. But some if them didn't got the lesson until everything went downhill

It makes you tired, to the point you wish they get scammed already

Take you for example, how many times did I point you out the russian site and you just evaded the question or said you just "dismissed it"? Can't you see how I would wish you to get scammed then? No matter what I said, you just didn't want to listen about it for some reason

That's why I say you need to slow your enthusiasm. The circus you and others did about dermarolling on *** is going to stay forever on the internet, and in a few years a complete noob is going to read all the stories about regrowth in two weeks and semen just to have his hopes destroyed

[rhysmorgan]

Those photo's were 100% confirmed fake. The hairs in the macro photo's didn't match and when a forum member corrected the pictures for lighting, there was NO visible change at all. This means that even if the hairs in the macro photo's WOULD match, it still would be from a different patient. In other words, this is 100% UNDENIABLE proof vraf posted fake and doctered photo's. Which means he's working for Pilox and the whole thing is obviously a scam, no way around it anymore.

Then, it turned out Yoram was working for a clinic which sold tons of snake oil therapies, like acupuncture and even therapies where they applied blood suckers to humans to stimulate hairgrowth. If you still believe there's something real here, man, then you DESERVE to get scammed.

Oh and to assuage guilt by association is a generally problematic way to discredit someone.

[rhysmorgan]

Those photo's were 100% confirmed fake. The hairs in the macro photo's didn't match and when a forum member corrected the pictures for lighting, there was NO visible change at all. This means that even if the hairs in the macro photo's WOULD match, it still would be from a different patient. In other words, this is 100% UNDENIABLE proof vraf posted fake and doctered photo's. Which means he's working for Pilox and the whole thing is obviously a scam, no way around it anymore.

Then, it turned out Yoram was working for a clinic which sold tons of snake oil therapies, like acupuncture and even therapies where they applied blood suckers to humans to stimulate hairgrowth. If you still believe there's something real here, man, then you DESERVE to get scammed.

As far as I remember, the debate was based around the hair being different around a tattoo. The other person debating you said it was from a tattoo in the thinner region and from what I could see, this was a reasonable explanation. Unless new information comes to light, I found his explanation to be reasonable.

[Arashi]

This kind of mentality is incredibly arrogant. Essentially you are vouching for a social class that feeds off of another's shortcomings. Pretty disgusting if you ask me.

Nobody deserves to be scammed... not unless your name is Dr. Nigam.

I dont think its arrogant. I've devoted quite some time to find the truth and see whats real and whats not. Mainly for my self but also to help others. However i still see people defending dr nigam for example, after all that he's done and after all we now know. These were also the kind of people who have been insulting the critics all of the time. If those people get scammed then sorry but i wont lose any sleep over them ...

[Pentarou]

Yeah, it's pretty much unquestionably a load of crap. At least it's been debunked quickly.

[deuce]

Those photo's were 100% confirmed fake. The hairs in the macro photo's didn't match and when a forum member corrected the pictures for lighting, there was NO visible change at all. This means that even if the hairs in the macro photo's WOULD match, it still would be from a different patient. In other words, this is 100% UNDENIABLE proof vraf posted fake and doctered photo's. Which means he's working for Pilox and the whole thing is obviously a scam, no way around it anymore.

Then, it turned out Yoram was working for a clinic which sold tons of snake oil therapies, like acupuncture and even therapies where they applied blood suckers to humans to stimulate hairgrowth. If you still believe there's something real here, man, then you DESERVE to get scammed.

Man this is proven fake too? Cosmo by some miracle can you hurry up with your product. Or can we find a vehicle please.

[Jasari]

Seriously if people are that stupid that they still believe there might be something real here then i Couldnt care less if they get scammed. Normally i hate it when somebody gets scammed but in this case id make an exception

Take into consideration this forum represents the smallest minority of patients. Most hair loss sufferers have next to no idea where to start in attempting to treat hair loss.

People more often than not will take what they are promised. If I developed a condition I had no understanding for I'd likely buy something which promises a cure.

Coming from a sales background people buy off emotion. More often than not when something affects someone in a deeply emotional way, rationality will tend to go out the window.