wtf is going with HISTOGEN phase 2b?

[Imalmostbald]

LOL!

The results are shit compared to what I'd expect in 2013 (a full blown cure thats long overdue) but I would definitely take a Histogen treatment right now.

10% increase.. Its very bad, don't evaluate your opinion of it based on those 2 shit pictures. Those are probably the best results they could achieve. Further than that its a temporary treatment anyway, your still susceptible to constant paracrine alteration through the constant supply of anti androgens. So you would be in need of a anti-androgen of any like or you would lose those already minor beneficial gains. You could do repeated treatments with HSC injections, yes. But what do you think the costs will be ? Again as i said, its nothing special those pictures and ive seen minoxidil results only which are 100x better as their results.

Your better off taking a hair transplant if you compare them together, especially with donor (hopefully) regen soon imo.

[hellouser]

10% increase.. Its very bad, don't evaluate your opinion of it based on those 2 shit pictures. Those are probably the best results they could achieve. Further than that its a temporary treatment anyway, your still susceptible to constant paracrine alteration through the constant supply of anti androgens. So you would be in need of a anti-androgen of any like or you would lose those already minor beneficial gains. You could do repeated treatments with HSC injections, yes. But what do you think the costs will be ? Again as i said, its nothing special those pictures and ive seen minoxidil results only which are 100x better as their results.

Your better off taking a hair transplant if you compare them together, especially with donor (hopefully) regen soon imo.

Actually, if the growth factors are strong enough, they could and should render DHT ineffective. No need for finasteride or other crap.

[Scientalk56]

10% increase.. Its very bad, don't evaluate your opinion of it based on those 2 shit pictures. Those are probably the best results they could achieve. Further than that its a temporary treatment anyway, your still susceptible to constant paracrine alteration through the constant supply of anti androgens. So you would be in need of a anti-androgen of any like or you would lose those already minor beneficial gains. You could do repeated treatments with HSC injections, yes. But what do you think the costs will be ? Again as i said, its nothing special those pictures and ive seen minoxidil results only which are 100x better as their results.

Your better off taking a hair transplant if you compare them together, especially with donor (hopefully) regen soon imo.

agree... 10 percent is total bullshit

[JDW]

Although looking on the positive 10% is no more loss...not slowing down of loss but stopping it right in its tracks...meaning that you could go down the HT route without worrying about future loss.

[hellouser]

Although looking on the positive 10% is no more loss...not slowing down of loss but stopping it right in its tracks...meaning that you could go down the HT route without worrying about future loss.

Depends what Norwood you are. For NW5+, the current crop of treatments are disgusting and intolerable.

[Hicks]

Depends what Norwood you are. For NW5+, the current crop of treatments are disgusting and intolerable.

If you where a nw5 you would need lots of money for a HT. Even if there was donor regeneration/doubling. It's not about the process it's about the process for research and development I.e.overhead. that being said what incentives would merk or anyone have? Even with fin your target is small once you kick out users that don't get sides. I really don't see the economics why a company would have a better product than fin. Fin is cheap. I really hope I'm wrong with my economics theory. How much would you guys pay a month to regrow all your hair for the rest of your life?

[hellouser]

If you where a nw5 you would need lots of money for a HT. Even if there was donor regeneration/doubling. It's not about the process it's about the process for research and development I.e.overhead. that being said what incentives would merk or anyone have? Even with fin your target is small once you kick out users that don't get sides. I really don't see the economics why a company would have a better product than fin. Fin is cheap. I really hope I'm wrong with my economics theory. How much would you guys pay a month to regrow all your hair for the rest of your life?

A lot.

[win200]

A lot.

I think I'd go $2k/mo. to regrow permanently down to a NW0 for life.

[strife91]

I would be out in the streets selling myself to whoever , looking nice and pretty with a thick nw1 haha just to pay for it. Fml

[TheSwingingGate]

How much would you guys pay a month to regrow all your hair for the rest of your life?

I would treat it like another car payment.

[greatjob!]

I would prostitute myself...

[Hicks]

I would be out in the streets selling myself to whoever , looking nice and pretty with a thick nw1 haha just to pay for it. Fml

Lol right there with you.

[Vox]

How much would you guys pay a month to regrow all your hair for the rest of your life?

I am NW7 and I would not give more than $10K to get all my hair back. Of course in this NW grade there is no reasonable solution today.

Baldness should stop being considered as a cosmetic issue. It must gain the status of a health problem to be treated for cheap, reimbursed partly by insurance companies. Just look at the havoc it wrecks in the psychology of younger men and the social problems it creates for them in many developed countries (the U.S.A. and Canada being the flagships in this). Again, it is not a cosmetic issue.

[JDW]

Depends what Norwood you are. For NW5+, the current crop of treatments are disgusting and intolerable.

I hear you man, time to see some sort of progressive advances somewhere.

[hellouser]

I hear you man, time to see some sort of progressive advances somewhere.

I think our complaints and demands about the current state of the hair loss world and especially biotechs and researchers is falling on deaf ears... they don't seem to care enough to actually put a product out the door but rather stall, delay, backtrack or fold completely.

More important than an advance would be a group of researchers or a biotech that isn't incompetent... like Aderans.