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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #16
    Originally posted by locke999
    Sources where Ceo said they are "close" to releasing a product. How close is close, close could be 5-6 years. What clinical trial is this for. What were the results.
    Considering that they started about 5-6 years ago, I dont think close would be half way there. Should be less.

    They could have completed a clinical trial that yielded poor results years ago, and now just started a new one in order to improve on results.
    Thats an assumption...

    There is too much hopeful assumptions in this post.
    Oh wait a minute...??


    You guys keep on scraping from the bottom of the internet and post it on here and everyone jumps on it with hope and then run wild speculation. Seriously just inferring a novel out of a sentence.
    Hmmm.... hypocrite?

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    • locke999
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 158

      #17
      Originally posted by hellouser
      Considering that they started about 5-6 years ago, I dont think close would be half way there. Should be less.

      Thats an assumption...
      Oh wait a minute...??

      Hmmm.... hypocrite?
      They started 5-6 years ago on which clinical trial? It could be different from this one. Here, they are wounding and applying lithium gluconate. What if they completed that trial but had bad efficacy.

      On the other article just released this year, they only just found out about fgf9 and may have only started on phase 1 of applying it (an assumption).

      You guys are coming to conclusion with something that you scraped from the bottom of the internet. BRB google searching hair loss cure, going to page 106, finding a patent from follica and then touting they will release something "soon, I am sure."

      Based on what? A short not even abstract link of a random clinical trial conducted by follica. They could be running 20 different clinical trials and all of them doing nothing (an assumption).

      So I can play that game too. There's too much "A cure is soon guys" going on in this forum. Just state the facts that there was a clinical trial conducted, and express that you are hopeful something comes out soon. But to say as if you know something is coming out soon based on as little information as this is being too optimistic.

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      • locke999
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 158

        #18
        And I don't mean to be doom and gloom about this, its good to be optimistic. But don't be delusional about it. Its like those guys who read that Dr. Mwamba is looking into nigam's hair doubling and then making a thread "Hair loss is cured yay" or any of the mainstream media headline about scientist finding a hair loss cure every time someone is able to grow something on mices.

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #19
          Originally posted by locke999
          They started 5-6 years ago on which clinical trial? It could be different from this one. Here, they are wounding and applying lithium gluconate. What if they completed that trial but had bad efficacy.

          On the other article just released this year, they only just found out about fgf9 and may have only started on phase 1 of applying it (an assumption).

          You guys are coming to conclusion with something that you scraped from the bottom of the internet. BRB google searching hair loss cure, going to page 106, finding a patent from follica and then touting they will release something "soon, I am sure."

          Based on what? A short not even abstract link of a random clinical trial conducted by follica. They could be running 20 different clinical trials and all of them doing nothing (an assumption).

          So I can play that game too. There's too much "A cure is soon guys" going on in this forum. Just state the facts that there was a clinical trial conducted, and express that you are hopeful something comes out soon. But to say as if you know something is coming out soon based on as little information as this is being too optimistic.
          Alright, youre getting your panties caught up in a bunch. You wanna play the doom and gloom crap? Lets see you put your money where your mouth is.

          Please QUOTE members in your next reply that said ANY of the things your claiming now.

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          • Raff1980
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 7

            #20
            dude did you read the article that came out in September 2013? Their CEO won't makes claims they can't back up. Stop being a pessimist.

            Researchers say they are very close to unleashing a product that could finally draw the curtain on the dreaded comb-over.

            Follica, a U.S.-based firm, claims their proprietary procedure consistently creates new hair follicles in both mice and men, The Scientist reports.

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            • Raff1980
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 7

              #21
              I don't know what 3rd world country you belong too but in the US its a different. the company has raised 16 million in the last 4 years, you don't get that kind of money without showing proof your technology works.

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              • cp9
                Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 86

                #22
                If they're done with phase II. Will it be released in Asia first then? I thought they didn't need phase III in Asian countries.

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                • locke999
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 158

                  #23
                  Bro, there is a ton of money raised to cure cancer but that doesn't mean cancer is almost cured. People invest because they see that its going in a positive direction, but to pass it off as if a treatment will come out in 2-3 years (2015) based on as little information as the link is being too optimistic. Close to the CEO could be within this lifetime, 3 years or 10 years or 20 years. That is the timeframe of scientist. When they say we will be able to this and that in the near future, near future means when this generation is still alive.

                  But to us hair loss sufferers, near future is 2-3 years. And soon is 2-3 years. But based on the link of the clinical trial, you can not draw the conclusion that a cure will come out "soon."

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    #24
                    Originally posted by locke999
                    Bro, there is a ton of money raised to cure cancer but that doesn't mean cancer is almost cured. People invest because they see that its going in a positive direction, but to pass it off as if a treatment will come out in 2-3 years (2015) based on as little information as the link is being too optimistic. Close to the CEO could be within this lifetime, 3 years or 10 years or 20 years. That is the timeframe of scientist. When they say we will be able to this and that in the near future, near future means when this generation is still alive.

                    But to us hair loss sufferers, near future is 2-3 years. And soon is 2-3 years. But based on the link of the clinical trial, you can not draw the conclusion that a cure will come out "soon."
                    Holy crap....

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                    • Raff1980
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 7

                      #25
                      they recently received the patent on their laser technology in Aug 2013. you don't patent and spend the money to get it patented without testing to see if it works. they are on the right track.

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                      • locke999
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 158

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Holy crap....
                        good response. you have completely won me over with your argument

                        Originally posted by Raff1980
                        they recently received the patent on their laser technology in Aug 2013. you don't patent and spend the money to get it patented without testing to see if it works. they are on the right track.
                        Yes, agreed. I don't doubt that they are making progress but I am saying the link to a clinical trial does not mean that THE "cure" has been found and they are releasing it soon. It doesn't even display the efficacy either.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #27
                          Originally posted by locke999
                          good response. you have completely won me over with your argument



                          Yes, agreed. I don't doubt that they are making progress but I am saying the link to a clinical trial does not mean that THE "cure" has been found and they are releasing it soon. It doesn't even display the efficacy either.
                          For a guy that slams speculation, you sure do it a LOT yourself.

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                          • SOTF
                            Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 54

                            #28
                            It is so very sad reading these hair loss forums. Everyone is just so desperate for any change it is a constant stream of ups and downs. I have never encountered such a "bi-polar" community on the internet. Way too much logical fallacy flailing about to stomach. You people want more hair on your head. We all do. How many times can hopes be raised to cure level before people get the message? PLEASE, STOP!

                            There is so much insecurity and hopelessness about you just allowed a "doctor" to hold you in suspense for the last year, ignoring red-flags from day one in this desperate attempt to release yourselves from the hair-loss-prison. Balding is a terrible thing in this society, everyone suffering agrees. It's affects are so potent your life has no-doubt been altered. Try and find some dignity. Any peep of good or bad news is blown out of proportion and it is embarrassing.

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                            • oppenheimer82
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 118

                              #29
                              well what do you know, they WERE testing this on humans all along. i said this on h@ir$yte many months ago and mr bigshot roger_that told me to stop lying, because it only has been tested on mice. what a moron.

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                              • tonypizza
                                Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 47

                                #30
                                Is there any way to access the results of these trials?

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