Anyone willing to take the Bimatoprost plunge?

[rdawg]

the new trials use a concentration 10 times higher than previously used.

yup, I think the max they used was 0.03% and 1% for the IIa trial, clearly not enough.

My guess is they saw some kind of result, especially in the 1% but felt the dose needed to be much higher in order to spend the major dollar amount it costs to go into the Phase III trials+release etc.

[rdawg]

With bimatoprost we do not know what amount to use but i would say at least 1ml to 2mls a day and thats to give it time to see if after a few months it shows some results if it does continue for a year and perhaps you could reduce the dose its all experimental as to what works and what does not but at these mls a day its going to be pricey but worth it if it regrows some hair better than minoxidil can.

max 1ml a day my friend, heck i'd probably cheat and do 0.5ml or a little less than 1ml a day. That's around what most people used and still got results.

This is a worthy experimental treatment.

dont look at it from a year cost standpoint, it takes about 2-4 months to take major affect if its working, so realistically that'll set you back a little over 200 bucks, if you can return some of your hair(youre a good candidate if you have alot of vellus hair) that's well worth it. And if it doesn't work well it was worth a shot I suppose.

[rdawg]

female cosmetic drug. I guess we can assume sexist price gouging. As most female cosmetics are expensive if considered quality. OR we can assume it's because they have a patent and are in a market with no competition.

IF they released as a hair loss drug they'd have more competition. And possibly the patent would run out, not sure on the exacts of that. But prices drop with competition, they can surely have a higher price than minoxidil. But how much more? Couldn't be past RU prices. Which if I remember all the pricing correctly that would force them to lower their price. BUt more importantly RU is even more fringe so supply/demand plays into that. blah blah blah.

long story short its expensive now because of basic economic factors. It'll get cheaper if they release it as a hairloss drug, patent runs out, RU gets renewed support, or other hairloss meds come out.

No competition in the eyelash growing market for sure.

hairloss though at a higher concentration? I really can't see this being the same price as say Minoxidil, it seems like this stuff is much more expensive to make.

My guess is 100 bucks per month to start off, however if they release around the time of Histogen and possibly Replicel, they'll get demolished, as this seems to cause only reversal of vellus hairs, while Histogen can cause some very noticeable growth in some(definitely not all) cases.

[crafter]

yup, I think the max they used was 0.03% and 1% for the IIa trial, clearly not enough.

My guess is they saw some kind of result, especially in the 1% but felt the dose needed to be much higher in order to spend the major dollar amount it costs to go into the Phase III trials+release etc.

they must think they are on to something to justify a new trial. So fingers cross.

I'm sure I read it may not take long to get FDA clearance because of its safety reecord with Lattise.

[whatsgoingon]

No competition in the eyelash growing market for sure.

hairloss though at a higher concentration? I really can't see this being the same price as say Minoxidil, it seems like this stuff is much more expensive to make.

My guess is 100 bucks per month to start off, however if they release around the time of Histogen and possibly Replicel, they'll get demolished, as this seems to cause only reversal of vellus hairs, while Histogen can cause some very noticeable growth in some(definitely not all) cases.

It's similar. It's not the same obviously. It's comparable as a topical that is like 10x more effective. But does that mean it's worth 10x more? If it was it would be more expensive than RU. And I think RU is around the same effectiveness just doesn't have huge production support.

So yeah, I do compare them on a simple product of use. Both for hair loss, one is dirt cheap (minox) is proven (minox). so to get customers to convert from minox to them or anything to them, they need to be affordable. Of course to us, we'd all buy it once more studies come out/more available to purchase. But the rest of the 90% who don't use these forums to communicate about their hairloss and just settle with advertisements as their thought process they need to be convinced by cost , results and time.

[doke]

not to put a damper on this but i think im right in saying it only helps existing hair and will not regrow shiny bald areas.
The only miracle treatmeat for mpb will be a total regrowth of shiny bald scalp for many that are in advanced mpb and i think many men and woman are desporate for this.

[MackJames]

I'd love to give brim a go. It might be a nice addition to my dermarollng regiment.

[Rekoj]

LOL .. I got mine from All Day Chemist , I did an E check , Which I linked to a Savings account just in case it was a shady deal , I got 12 Packages Of Bim for 120.00 so 10 bucks a bottle .. I used it up in about a month in a half .. I did not use a Vehicle I just put the Bim on my head.I feel Like I got some Results But I was Hoping Someone Would tell me if someone has tried Dermarolling + Bim .. and Should I be using a vehicle for BIM .. Even though they don't for the Eyelashes .. They just Apply it Directly ..

[rdawg]

not to put a damper on this but i think im right in saying it only helps existing hair and will not regrow shiny bald areas.
The only miracle treatmeat for mpb will be a total regrowth of shiny bald scalp for many that are in advanced mpb and i think many men and woman are desporate for this.

This is already known, the thing is, what current drug even reverses current hair? Fin for a small minority, maybe minoxidil, but neither did much more than stabilize for me.

this seems to consistently darken vellus hairs.

[rdawg]

I'd love to give brim a go. It might be a nice addition to my dermarollng regiment.

If you do, do some before and after pictures!!!

[rdawg]

LOL .. I got mine from All Day Chemist , I did an E check , Which I linked to a Savings account just in case it was a shady deal , I got 12 Packages Of Bim for 120.00 so 10 bucks a bottle .. I used it up in about a month in a half .. I did not use a Vehicle I just put the Bim on my head.I feel Like I got some Results But I was Hoping Someone Would tell me if someone has tried Dermarolling + Bim .. and Should I be using a vehicle for BIM .. Even though they don't for the Eyelashes .. They just Apply it Directly ..

Not that i've heard of, usually you just try to rub it in, obviously being a small dose if you spread it all over it may not do as much if you just do 0.8-1ml in one area.
you should post before and after pics if the results were/become noticeable.

[frankzukini]

I've been using highly concentrated Bimatoprost, from Kane, for a couple months and wouldn't recommend it. If anything, it might have increased the thickness of my existing hair, but I wouldn't say it grown any and, most of all, did nothing to halt or slow down loss. It definitely increased the thickness of my body hair, which is very unaesthetically. It initially caused eye discomfort/pain. I wouldn't say it darkened my irises or changed the pigmentation of my hair, but I would definitly not risk lightly pigmented irises over this. Would rather recommend growth factors.

[oscar32]

I tested it didn't really notice much so stopped

[rdawg]

I tested it didn't really notice much so stopped

How long did you test it for?

[randomman111]

I've been using bim for about 6 months and its definitely thickened up my hair as well as reversing miniturisation of a few hairs, no new growth but some darker hairs forming ( my hair is blonde.

anyone who thinks applying it to the scalp will change iris colour is wrong! its not going in the eye, therefore won't change eye colour.