Histogen 2013 MESA Presentation

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  • Thinning87
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    You're asking the kind of questions that cannot be answered in a forum. We were making the exact type of calculations more than a year ago. Histogen had just released its phase 1/2a studies. Some of us speculated they would be done with their phase 2b in 2014 and by late 2015 it would be on the market in the US. But we are in the same exact phase we were a year and a half ago.

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    Originally posted by Arashi
    If everything goes right it should go way faster than 5 years. The first clinical trial for Regenica, the product they now have on the market, started 5 years ago. Histogen is already half way in the trails for their hair product. And if people who say they don't need phase III in Asia are correct, we might actually see it early 2015. But I still don't know if that's true or not (them not needing phase III in Asia that is).
    Let's say with phase 2b and III done here in the U.S., would it then be on the market for U.S. in 2016?

    And a diffused NW3, with Histogen treatment could go back to what exactly? NW1? thick dense NW2? NW0?

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
    Well if they bring it out now that i'm still NW3, that would be very helpful. But it's not coming out now is it? 5 years? When I will be like an NW5billion. I'm seriously considering just ending it all, going to India, and get an FUE for cheap from a quality doctor there next year. I can't wait much longer. From 16 years old to 24 years old with this nightmare.
    If everything goes right it should go way faster than 5 years. The first clinical trial for Regenica, the product they now have on the market, started 5 years ago. Histogen is already half way in the trails for their hair product. And if people who say they don't need phase III in Asia are correct, we might actually see it early 2015. But I still don't know if that's true or not (them not needing phase III in Asia that is).

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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    Well if they bring it out now that i'm still NW3, that would be very helpful. But it's not coming out now is it? 5 years? When I will be like an NW5billion. I'm seriously considering just ending it all, going to India, and get an FUE for cheap from a quality doctor there next year. I can't wait much longer. From 16 years old to 24 years old with this nightmare.

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  • k3nk3n
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    Guys, also take into consideration that they only used norwood 3 vertex and above for their trails, so that 10% growth rate might just be not that effective.

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  • Arashi
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    Originally posted by drybone
    When is the crap finally going to get FDA approval?
    First they need to conduct phase 2b. I've read mixed reports about what happens after that. Some seem to think that Phase III isn't necessary in Asia, other seem to think that's not true.

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  • Thinning87
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    Originally posted by greatjob!
    I got an idea, how about you don't start a thread by insulting everyone on the forum...
    Yeah seriously. Especially if it takes a lot less than seventh grade math to figure it out haha

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  • drybone
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    When is the crap finally going to get FDA approval?

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  • greatjob!
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    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    and no, don't answer that. the only one who can explain that is Dr gail. because you will give me answers based on 7th grade math class.
    I got an idea, how about you don't start a thread by insulting everyone on the forum...

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  • Artha
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    I think they want to release a product that can be use for multiple thing beside hair growth and maybe that why they take their time.

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  • Artha
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    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    this the kind of comments i was afraid to hear

    well i will try to explain it to you in simple words:

    if you are now norwood 0 - full head of hair. if you use histogen probably you will have 1% increase in hair
    if you are now norwood 6 - bald head, if you use histogen probably you will have 50%-60% increase in hair

    exactly!

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  • hellouser
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    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    this the kind of comments i was afraid to hear

    well i will try to explain it to you in simple words:

    if you are now norwood 0 - full head of hair. if you use histogen probably you will have 1% increase in hair
    if you are now norwood 6 - bald head, if you use histogen probably you will have 50%-60% increase in hair

    So essentially NW2-4 will get best aesthetically pleasing results.

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  • Scientalk56
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    Originally posted by LMS
    so basically histogen actually kinda sucks lol.

    who gives a shit about 10% more hair thats like minoxidil levels.
    this the kind of comments i was afraid to hear

    well i will try to explain it to you in simple words:

    if you are now norwood 0 - full head of hair. if you use histogen probably you will have 1% increase in hair
    if you are now norwood 6 - bald head, if you use histogen probably you will have 50%-60% increase in hair

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  • LMS
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    so basically histogen actually kinda sucks lol.

    who gives a shit about 10% more hair thats like minoxidil levels.

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  • Scientalk56
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    interesting answers. thank you

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