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All I read was "...could start trials within 10 years"
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A quote from you in the "May 2014 be the year of the cure" thread
"I would say, 'Definitely will not have a cure available in 2014 but since we are only one step off from a cure in the research field we could have a cure this year that might be ready in, 8-10 years.'"
And since I'm not a scientist, I can't make claims about things being promising or not, sounds great that they remove this protein to speed up the process to concert cells to embryonic state, maybe that will cure baldness, maybe it'll cause cancer, maybe it'll cause a whole host of problems, it could take a decade to figure out
Not being pessimistic, more like realistic.Comment
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I'm sure all of us read at least most of that article, but the underlying problem is still the terrible timeline. Another 10 years? It was within 5 years, 10 years ago.
These projected timelines are all meaningless.
One things for sure; you're going to hate the next 10 years with a balding head.
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It's crazy how there seemed to be so many options almost at the finish line only to be revealed that they weren't lol. Follica needs to hurry up.Comment
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I am a diffuse thinner and as much as it haunts me, I am going to have to accept the balding reality of it. It's awful man. I hate the fact that it's taking so long but it's inevitable. I am just grateful that within the next 10 years, a cure will be out. We are so close to it. I'm 6'7 and very good looking so a buzzed head isn't the end of the world. These are silly first world problems.Comment
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There's nothing that guarantees this. Pure speculation... and with the FDA being an organization full of scumbags, I wouldn't use the '10 year mark' as scripture.
Health, is NOT a 'first world problem'. Its a problem anywhere. Mental health is as important and sometimes MORE important than your physical well being. The mind is both strong and incredibly fragile. Baldness is incredibly crippling mentally.We are so close to it. I'm 6'7 and very good looking so a buzzed head isn't the end of the world. These are silly first world problems.Comment
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I'll agree with your first part. It's just a logical guess but seeing that with each decade, we exponentially find more discoveries, I would say 10 years is a safe bet. To all the people that are saying, "oh it's going to be another 15-30 years," they can take that and shove it up their you know what.
As far as it being a crippling mentally disorder as you portray it, to each his own. For some, it might affect them a lot more than others. I met a guy the other day that was bald. I asked him what it was like to go bald and he said it bothered him a little at first but now he doesn't think twice about it. He said it in such a genuine, nonchalant way that I believed him. Other guys, like you HELL, it's the most daunting thing in the world. I would say I am right in the middle of the pack. Life could be worse. I can think of a 100 things that's worse than going bald, easily. We all know a cure is coming out relatively soon. Key word in that last sentence, "relatively." 50 years ago, we would all be screwed with no choice but to sit back and watch the hairs fall out. Now, we are on the brink of so many solutions/discoveries.
The current hairloss era now is such a tease. We are oh so close yet it seems so far away because some of us really cannot wait another 5 years. By then, it'll be too late. Oh how I wish I was 14 years old now so by the time I would start losing hair, CB would be out etc.Comment
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So are we still 5 years away guys?Comment
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cichildfort
If you are a diffuse thinner you might respond well to meds.
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Who knows? We are kept in the dark over everything...no idea what's up with HistogenComment
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Japan's Regenerative Medicine Law
Desmond, have you seen this?
"it will be possible to get a stem cell treatment to market in just three years, rather than the typical six or more"
http://www.stempeutics.com/pdf/japan.pdf
Explanation of the new system by Dr. Toshio Miyata:
http://jbpress.ismedia.jp/articles/-/39710Comment
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Thumbs up man
This is being watched really closely by all other regulatory authorities...TGA, FDA, EMEA! Non of them can believe Japan took such a step! And if it proves successful all these other organisations will slowly adopt this methodology which is only beneficial to us the consumers
Nice articles btw, hadn't seen them actually
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iPSC Safety
(...)"The strategy also seemed to offer a way around the ethical complexities of using stem cells derived from human embryos. But then came the worries about possible side effects. Particularly bad news came from a 2011 study2 showing that iPS cells provoked immune responses when injected into the mice from which they had been derived, casting doubt over one of the key advantages of the cells.
The latest Nature study1 rejects that conclusion. Masumi Abe, a geneticist at the National Institute of Radiological Sciences in Chiba, Japan, and his team took iPS cells derived from mice and injected them back into the animals. For comparison, they injected other mice with embryonic stem (ES) cells. Yet unlike the 2011 study, which saw iPS cells perform worse than ES cells, the team found no differences between the immune responses of each group. The researchers also transplanted skin and bone-marrow cells derived from iPS or ES cells into mice and achieved similar success rates between the groups. The immune response of both sets of tissues is “indistinguishable”, says Abe."
Another article about iPSC safety from Masayo Takahashi, who is conducting the first clinical trial with this type of stem cells. This is the only part that surprised me: "We are at least 20 years from any clinical treatments, but the potential is exciting". I really don't understand why she's expecting such a long timeline.
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