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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    Originally posted by brunobald
    Exactly, get the money to the students with talent and passion and they can use it efficiently. Throwing money at big bussiness is naive at best.

    It would be great if the universitys also allowed any intellectual property to enter the public domain with no restrictions. This would mean nobody could profit or squirrel potential treatments away in their vaults. It would be truly a service for the people and their noggins.
    Get Silicon Valley to work on this. They'd have a cure in months. Those guys actually solve problems.... fast. The rest of these doctors don't seem to have a clue about how to find solutions.

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    • crafter
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2013
      • 239

      Originally posted by hellouser
      Get Silicon Valley to work on this. They'd have a cure in months. Those guys actually solve problems.... fast. The rest of these doctors don't seem to have a clue about how to find solutions.
      steve Jobs would have had a cure out every 2 years if Apple did hair loss.

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        Originally posted by hellouser
        Get Silicon Valley to work on this. They'd have a cure in months. Those guys actually solve problems.... fast. The rest of these doctors don't seem to have a clue about how to find solutions.
        biology > tech in complexity.

        Yeah guys, I think we really need to understand that comparing the complexity of human biology to technology is just insane, human biology walks in a whole different dimension of hyper-complexity in comparison.

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        • greatjob!
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 909

          Originally posted by UK_
          biology > tech in complexity.

          Yeah guys, I think we really need to understand that comparing the complexity of human biology to technology is just insane, human biology walks in a whole different dimension of hyper-complexity in comparison.
          true story

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4419

            Originally posted by UK_
            biology > tech in complexity.

            Yeah guys, I think we really need to understand that comparing the complexity of human biology to technology is just insane, human biology walks in a whole different dimension of hyper-complexity in comparison.
            Yeah, I understand bio is a different beast, but I just don't see the need for so many excuses to not have a treatment, let alone cure after so many years and so many guys involved. I just don't get the feeling these guys are problem solvers but rather problem researchers... I mean, seriously, has the bio world ever found a full out cure for anything? No.

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            • walrus
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 298

              Originally posted by hellouser
              I mean, seriously, has the bio world ever found a full out cure for anything? No.
              How many vaccinations do you have?

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Originally posted by walrus
                How many vaccinations do you have?
                Thats preventative rather than reversing the problem.

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                • HairBane
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 300

                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  Thats preventative rather than reversing the problem.
                  Vaccines aren't necessarily preventative, they can be therapeutic also. Plenty of diseases have been cured.

                  Baldness is a difficult one probably because it will most likely require genetic or stem cell based therapies to combat it effectively, and those aren't mature yet. But it will come. Hellouser's right in a sense, medicine as a field will change drastically once it becomes an information science.

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by HairBane
                    Vaccines aren't necessarily preventative, they can be therapeutic also. Plenty of diseases have been cured.

                    Baldness is a difficult one probably because it will most likely require genetic or stem cell based therapies to combat it effectively, and those aren't mature yet. But it will come. Hellouser's right in a sense, medicine as a field will change drastically once it becomes an information science.
                    I don't doubt that part of the reason why there aren't any legitimate cures is because of consumerism. You offer the public a stupid iPhone and the sheep go crazy. You tell them they can buy something health related and nobody bats an eye. People have their priorities so effing backwards. But you have to admit how ridiculously fast paced the tech world is moving forward.... only a few+ years ago were we all still stuck on crappy HD drives, now SSD drives are basically the norm: silent, shock proof, no heat, little to no battery usage and ridiculously faster than an HD drive. Or how about screens? In about a decade we've got from CRTs to small displays on mobile devices that are reaching nearly 500ppi... about DOUBLE of what the human eye can see... and thats on a MOBILE device.

                    The health world? Still trudging along at a snails pace... and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.

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                    • greatjob!
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 909

                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      I don't doubt that part of the reason why there aren't any legitimate cures is because of consumerism. You offer the public a stupid iPhone and the sheep go crazy. You tell them they can buy something health related and nobody bats an eye. People have their priorities so effing backwards. But you have to admit how ridiculously fast paced the tech world is moving forward.... only a few+ years ago were we all still stuck on crappy HD drives, now SSD drives are basically the norm: silent, shock proof, no heat, little to no battery usage and ridiculously faster than an HD drive. Or how about screens? In about a decade we've got from CRTs to small displays on mobile devices that are reaching nearly 500ppi... about DOUBLE of what the human eye can see... and thats on a MOBILE device.

                      The health world? Still trudging along at a snails pace... and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.
                      Yeah but when you develop a new technology the system doesn't evolve and adapt to make that technology useless. When you develop a new technology it works for everyone, not just a small population of consumers. Developing solutions for a living system is infinitely more complex than developing solutions for predictable dead objects. The tech field and the medical field are not very comparable.

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                      • walrus
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 298

                        "Google spin-off Calico to search for answers to ageing"
                        Google's new healthcare spin-off will focus on "the challenge of ageing" as search giant spreads its wings again.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by walrus
                          "Google spin-off Calico to search for answers to ageing"
                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24158924
                          I've got more faith in them than the other biotechs. Relatively speaking, I see the biotechs as a bunch of incompetent losers. I just can't understand how hair loss hasn't been cured yet... there's obviously a massive demand for it, and pretty much everyone (not us here on the forums) has been content with snake oil shampoos and finasteride. Once some company releases a product that actually works, the other players are going be running around in circles, dumbfounded at their lack of initiative... just like Blackberry, resting on its laurels for 7 years and doing jack shit while the iPhone completely obliterated their dominance in the smartphone world. When that time comes to the hair loss industry, I will throw a parade right in the face of todays hair loss crooks.

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                          • DepressedByHairLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 854

                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            I've got more faith in them than the other biotechs. Relatively speaking, I see the biotechs as a bunch of incompetent losers. I just can't understand how hair loss hasn't been cured yet... there's obviously a massive demand for it, and pretty much everyone (not us here on the forums) has been content with snake oil shampoos and finasteride. Once some company releases a product that actually works, the other players are going be running around in circles, dumbfounded at their lack of initiative... just like Blackberry, resting on its laurels for 7 years and doing jack shit while the iPhone completely obliterated their dominance in the smartphone world. When that time comes to the hair loss industry, I will throw a parade right in the face of todays hair loss crooks.
                            I've been saying on here for a long time that the biotechs aren't interested in cures because there is no money in cures, but instead in treatments that need to be taken for the rest of a person's life. And it's worse than ever today with these greedy pharmaceutical companies. I see ads on TV all the time advertising some pill or remedy that of course needs to be taken every day for the rest of a person's life. And I love that last sentence of yours too.

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                            • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 638

                              NASDAQ:GOOG goes uphill.....i guess it must be the nexus leak and the google lifespam reasearch thing...

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                              • walrus
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 298

                                Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                                I've been saying on here for a long time that the biotechs aren't interested in cures because there is no money in cures, but instead in treatments that need to be taken for the rest of a person's life. And it's worse than ever today with these greedy pharmaceutical companies. I see ads on TV all the time advertising some pill or remedy that of course needs to be taken every day for the rest of a person's life. And I love that last sentence of yours too.
                                There is no global health conspiracy. Do people take antibiotics for life, or only until an infection is cleared? - The later. What you are talking about are genetic conditions. Targeting the products of gene expression with a drug is much more feasible today than changing a patients DNA. It's not a hidden agenda against anyone.

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