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  • DepressedByHairLoss
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 854

    #1

    Hydrogel forms new skin and hair follicles

    I just found this article: http://www.gizmag.com/hydrogel-skin-...e-burns/20876/. What's interesting is that they only use water and dissolved dextran, a sugar-like polymer. So maybe similar to what Hellouser is proposed with the dermaroller, we could set up a community trial for this.
  • Westonci
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 251

    #2
    interesting

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    • gainspotter
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 135

      #3
      This would be the ideal cure if it works on humans.

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      • PatientlyWaiting
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1637

        #4
        That was December 16 2011, what ever happened?

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        • Difthin
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 22

          #5
          Originally posted by PatientlyWaiting
          That was December 16 2011, what ever happened?
          They have a fb page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scar-...20446228073161

          It is being updated irregularly. Maybe we can ask Qs?

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          • lothar99
            Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 36

            #6
            http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20....full.pdf+html

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            • lothar99
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 36

              #7
              As far as I know...

              The specific hydrogel they used in the study, which allowed for wound healing with minimal/no scarring, even on very severe wounds, also induced new follicle formation in mice. However it seems hard to make.(http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/20...5973108_SI.pdf).

              They have now completed/are completing an animal study on pigs which will be presented in about 5.5 weeks. (https://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2013/...per337043.html). The gel could go on the market for veterinary use within months, though I am skeptical. (http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-...eterinary-use/)

              After this they are moving onto human studies. If it goes for sale for veterinary use next year sometime, maybe we could find a source for it. Perhaps wounding + this particular hydrogel could work like Follica.

              Also, here are patents:

              http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/e...tab=PCT+Biblio
              I know there are mention of growth factors, but I don't think they are included in the formula (though I read something about VEGF increasing cell recruitment or something like that).

              And finally, here is the study:
              http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20....full.pdf+html

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              • DepressedByHairLoss
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 854

                #8
                Originally posted by lothar99
                As far as I know...

                The specific hydrogel they used in the study, which allowed for wound healing with minimal/no scarring, even on very severe wounds, also induced new follicle formation in mice. However it seems hard to make.(http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/20...5973108_SI.pdf).

                They have now completed/are completing an animal study on pigs which will be presented in about 5.5 weeks. (https://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2013/...per337043.html). The gel could go on the market for veterinary use within months, though I am skeptical. (http://inbt.jhu.edu/2013/07/09/burn-...eterinary-use/)

                After this they are moving onto human studies. If it goes for sale for veterinary use next year sometime, maybe we could find a source for it. Perhaps wounding + this particular hydrogel could work like Follica.

                Also, here are patents:

                http://patentscope.wipo.int/search/e...tab=PCT+Biblio
                I know there are mention of growth factors, but I don't think they are included in the formula (though I read something about VEGF increasing cell recruitment or something like that).

                And finally, here is the study:
                http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20....full.pdf+html
                ACtually it seems remarkably easy to make. Apparently it only contains water and a sugar-like polymer. I'd bet this could even be compounded by a pharmacist.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 854

                  #9
                  Actually I even see that some sort of hydrogel is even sold at Walgreens. Not sure if it's the same thing though: http://www.walgreens.com/q/hydrogel

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    #10
                    Forum Community Trials, anyone?

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                    • lothar99
                      Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 36

                      #11
                      Hydrogel means a gel that is primarily water. The gel in the trial is porous like a sponge in a manner that new cells can move into it easily. The gel is also digested by the body as well, I think. There is no reason to think other hydrogels would work the same. I posted the instructions for how to make the proper hydrogel from the study. We could try to have a lab produce it, or wait until it goes into veterinary and look for a real supplier at that time. That said ,they have stated new hair follicles form where the skin grows back, so I think we should try harder to find someone to create this for us.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lothar99
                        Hydrogel means a gel that is primarily water. The gel in the trial is porous like a sponge in a manner that new cells can move into it easily. The gel is also digested by the body as well, I think. There is no reason to think other hydrogels would work the same. I posted the instructions for how to make the proper hydrogel from the study. We could try to have a lab produce it, or wait until it goes into veterinary and look for a real supplier at that time. That said ,they have stated new hair follicles form where the skin grows back, so I think we should try harder to find someone to create this for us.
                        I'm down for trialing!

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                        • clandestine
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2002

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lothar99
                          Hydrogel means a gel that is primarily water. The gel in the trial is porous like a sponge in a manner that new cells can move into it easily. The gel is also digested by the body as well, I think. There is no reason to think other hydrogels would work the same. I posted the instructions for how to make the proper hydrogel from the study. We could try to have a lab produce it, or wait until it goes into veterinary and look for a real supplier at that time. That said ,they have stated new hair follicles form where the skin grows back, so I think we should try harder to find someone to create this for us.
                          Could contact Kane perhaps? He might be able to, if we show him the study.

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                          • DepressedByHairLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 854

                            #14
                            I'd bet a pharmacist could compound this so ridiculously easily. I will inquire and I would be willing to trial this too.

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                            • DesperateOne
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 289

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lothar99
                              Hydrogel means a gel that is primarily water. The gel in the trial is porous like a sponge in a manner that new cells can move into it easily. The gel is also digested by the body as well, I think. There is no reason to think other hydrogels would work the same. I posted the instructions for how to make the proper hydrogel from the study. We could try to have a lab produce it, or wait until it goes into veterinary and look for a real supplier at that time. That said ,they have stated new hair follicles form where the skin grows back, so I think we should try harder to find someone to create this for us.
                              I am also game for this trial, please post the method to creating this so that we can give it to a pharmacist. Does anyone know what the price of something like this would cost?

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