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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2691

    #31
    Originally posted by Occulus
    No, it's not. 15 years is about the time a protocol goes from hypothesis to market. Since nothing in the current pipeline is going to work, then 15 years is the earliest something that COULD work would make it to market. Additionally, it would be surprising, given the current pace of biomedicine, if there wasn't a cure within 30 years. So, nothing's being puller out of anyone's asses - these are sensible timelines based on reality.
    You're guessing, you've pulled that 15 year figure out of the sky - ive been following hair loss research from the early 80's, you've probably just noticed a little frontal recession while studying for your high school exams, @hypothesis > market = circa15 years; what is that based upon? Because from my experience, you cant just take the status quo of the bio-tech industry and apply it to hair loss research, it doesnt work that way (whole diff ball park), especially when you only have two effective products that have ever been FDA approved in the US.

    @"nothing will work"... really? And who will be US president in 5 years time? Do you know that too?

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    • Thinning87
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 839

      #32
      Lol

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      • strife91
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 50

        #33
        #baldtruthspeculation

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        • rdawg
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 996

          #34
          Basically not close enough to worry about it right now.

          Live you're life as much as you can, if you have a tiny bit of thinning, use toppik or caboki to cover it up+Fin while you wait for something bigger.

          If you have a tonne of money maybe consider a transplant if youre in the NW3-5 or so.

          There is stuff on the horizon for sure, and the science of it is looking brighter and I've seen more 'breakthroughs' from late 2012-now than I've ever seen.

          So there is reason to have a small amount of optimism, but 3-5 years down the line, not next year(barring some huge grey market thing that we find.)

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #35
            I think with such trash news ...

            Researchers have discovered factors that determine when hair grows, when it stops and when it falls out - opening doors to potential new treatments for hair loss.


            ... you guys will wait for the cure forever.

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            • rassoul
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 23

              #36
              I don't think they will ever find something that really cure us, we just need to accept the fate or keep using topicals and dht reducers active ingredients

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              • beetee
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 187

                #37
                Originally posted by Occulus
                The next treatment - not cure, not game-changer - to make it to market (IF it makes it to market) will be a bimatoprost topica that will have results slightly better than minoxidil.
                Allergan has said that they will not release something unless it is "significantly better" than Minoxidil. So if the tests show that it's just as effective as Minoxidil or just a little better, then, at least according to their statements, they will not be releasing a product.

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                • Sogeking
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 494

                  #38
                  Originally posted by rassoul
                  I don't think they will ever find something that really cure us, we just need to accept the fate or keep using topicals and dht reducers active ingredients
                  Are you kidding me, right now?
                  Have you seen the science recently? It is not a question of if but when. Sure the cure may not come this decade, but it will come.

                  Check it out though. They used HIV virus (inactivated of course) to treat kids with genetic disorders. Two weeks ago first artificial heart was implanted into a guy in France. They've even grown kidney cells from stem cells and made well let us just say an early version of a kidney. The list goes on...
                  The one thing I am afraid is that this scientific progress stops.

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                  • Scientalk56
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 280

                    #39
                    Histogen

                    The next clinical trial of HSC is currently in planning stages, and is scheduled to begin in Singapore in early 2011, with plans for pan-Asian approval in 2014. Estimated U.S. market introduction of the injectable for hair regrowth in the treatment of male pattern baldness is 2015, with potential for earlier introduction in certain identified countries.
                    Please, someone have to tell them to update their website... it makes me sick!

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                    • Dazza
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 264

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Scientalk56
                      Please, someone have to tell them to update their website... it makes me sick!
                      Contact info is on the website. Will take you 5mins. Goodluck

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                      • UK_
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2691

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Sogeking
                        Are you kidding me, right now?
                        Have you seen the science recently? It is not a question of if but when. Sure the cure may not come this decade, but it will come.

                        Check it out though. They used HIV virus (inactivated of course) to treat kids with genetic disorders. Two weeks ago first artificial heart was implanted into a guy in France. They've even grown kidney cells from stem cells and made well let us just say an early version of a kidney. The list goes on...
                        The one thing I am afraid is that this scientific progress stops.
                        OMFG REALLI???!!?

                        I also heard a research team in Guatemala used a self-replicating atomic device to multiply the DNA of a Guatemalan Yoda Bat to spawn a demonic alien hybrid that divulged the meaning of life before dragging the entire research team into a black hole within the core an atom.

                        But hair loss cure is still 5 years away.

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                        • Sogeking
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 494

                          #42
                          Originally posted by UK_
                          OMFG REALLI???!!?

                          I also heard a research team in Guatemala used a self-replicating atomic device to multiply the DNA of a Guatemalan Yoda Bat to spawn a demonic alien hybrid that divulged the meaning of life before dragging the entire research team into a black hole within the core an atom.

                          But hair loss cure is still 5 years away.
                          Contrary to popular belief hair loss is not the most important thing to cure. Go figure.

                          But sure try sarcasm I'm sure it will be 4 years away then. Look I did it as well.

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                          • UK_
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2691

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Sogeking
                            Contrary to popular belief hair loss is not the most important thing to cure. Go figure.

                            But sure try sarcasm I'm sure it will be 4 years away then. Look I did it as well.
                            Your optimism about medical science is humorous... the true "brilliance of medicine" is known via its fruits:

                            It couldnt cure a cold even if it tried.

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                            • 25 going on 65
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1476

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Sogeking
                              Contrary to popular belief hair loss is not the most important thing to cure. Go figure.

                              But sure try sarcasm I'm sure it will be 4 years away then. Look I did it as well.
                              Literally BILLIONS of people suffer from this condition. It is extremely socially debilitating & psychologically traumatizing. If you look at the # of sufferers it is causing FAR more harm than most other health problems, including most kinds of cancer, including sh*t like lupus or AIDS, etc Yet how much cash is going to

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                              • burtandernie
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 1563

                                #45
                                Personally I think a cure in the sense of NW 7 -> NW 0 is probably a few decades away at least. Yes we cant cure even a cold or cancer even with the money we spent, but I challenge you to do better. I dont think its easy as you might think when the latest and greatest tech fails you.
                                I would agree that cosmetic issues are not high in the priority list and with cosmetics you can just make any old garbage and sell it. You dont need to prove anything just get lots of dumb people to buy it and retire so the next garbage comes out claiming the next big thing. With no real need to prove it works anything goes.

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