(CB-03-01 Vehicle Research) PhD Student in Chemistry

[StayThick]

The bottom line is this: Depending on your DNA and the speed/progression of your balding, there is nothing currently available or close to being available that will prevent the inevitable...you will be BALD.

How fast you get there will depend on person to person on this damn forum, but the bottom line is you will eventually be bald or show some sort of hair loss.

The treatments we have available are embarassing and I think it's disgusting I have to or used too mind you, mix topicals and chemicals in my house to apply on my damn head. That and apply a possible sketchy growth factor from god knows where. It's embarrassing and I could have caused more harm then good to my health.

Checking this forum everyday isn't helping me either. My hairloss is slow and minox is the only thing I got that has kept me steady and that doesn't say much. Especially, since we are now in 2014 and I'm using the best treatment now that was available in the damn 80's. It's disgusting.

Wish you the best everyone. I'm done with this forum. Time to move on with my life and with the hair I got. My rant is done.

Peace guys.

[Wiffle]

Well, these rants about the (apparent) "utter uselessness" of everything current, anger at pharmas for not coming up with something better, the litanies of hopelessness....

....crop up with fairly regular frequency.

I find them really odd because I don't really see how they help.

Methinks such peeps secretly want to be re-assured. But there are no assurances though; and no guarantees; we have to keep looking and trying.

My only advice to such a person is to keep things in perspective; at least you aren't (presumably) dying of cancer or a quadriplegic, or any number of ailments that make hairless look like something almost welcome.

[doke]

here we go again it was in the 1990s that ru58841 was going through trials and after all this time many of these so called hair loss drugs and naturals come to nothing so take all this with a pinch of salt.
The cb that iron dragon sells has caused some discomfort in many and as its untested and to be quite frank maynot work as ru does not in some and for me anything with alcohol or prop glycol causes dry scalp and takes weeks to calm down its only now my hair is beginning to recover with the igrow laser helmet and my own made shampoo that has rosemery and grapeseed in it.
My hair had stopped growing as well for a few years not as fast that is and within two months of the helmet its growing again.
I Have stopped dutasteride as it did nothing as finasteride did as well and no minoxidil im going totally natural and it seems to be working im going to add another natural topical and am taking natural dht prostate health as well tablets.

[Wiffle]

here we go again it was in the 1990s that ru58841 was going through trials and after all this time many of these so called hair loss drugs and naturals come to nothing so take all this with a pinch of salt.
The cb that iron dragon sells has caused some discomfort in many and as its untested and to be quite frank maynot work as ru does not in some and for me anything with alcohol or prop glycol causes dry scalp and takes weeks to calm down its only now my hair is beginning to recover with the igrow laser helmet and my own made shampoo that has rosemery and grapeseed in it.
My hair had stopped growing as well for a few years not as fast that is and within two months of the helmet its growing again.
I Have stopped dutasteride as it did nothing as finasteride did as well and no minoxidil im going totally natural and it seems to be working im going to add another natural topical and am taking natural dht prostate health as well tablets.

You can get real CB at very high purity levels if you look around. The key is the right vehicle and I believe we have that too.

[lilpauly]

Doke it's a vehicle problem . It always has been . When mpbtreatments sold it as well the results were awful. The 17ap cream has it of ingredients that will not benefit the hair . In fact actually suffocate the hair shaft! Mineral oil is no good

[doke]

yes and the delivery was the problem with the sintov flutamide gel and because it never came to the market no one could get the formula right as most people trying it got systemic side effects.
What im saying is all these different drugs may or maynot ever be on sale so then as with ru its experimental and ru will never become legit, so its not worth getting excited about we can talk here till the cows come home about dreams but not until anything actually proves it will not harm humans and not until the companies get fda and uk approval.
It really sucks i know but as of this time we only have the two drugs and even dutas as we know is not for mpb approved and this is so unreal as they have been available since the late 1980s minox that is and over them years how many so called new naturals and drugs been talked about on many forums over them years and none have been a real cures for mpb only maybe some help and like ru and dutastride caused me more hair loss.

[HairBane]

You can get real CB at very high purity levels if you look around. The key is the right vehicle and I believe we have that too.

Which vehicle is that? What is currently regarded as the most effective?

[Amercancer]

What happened to RU? Any good? If any bad whats to expect? I don't know if I should continue. I mix it with minox. I'm afraid of it because I was searching around to see if any sides, and ran across something scary where someone has heart failure from it. He might be bs to. I don't know.

[lilpauly]

What happened to RU? Any good? If any bad whats to expect? I don't know if I should continue. I mix it with minox. I'm afraid of it because I was searching around to see if any sides, and ran across something scary where someone has heart failure from it. He might be bs to. I don't know.

Yes man his name was zeros. He ordered it a while back from mpbtreatmrnts and he hasn't been active sense then . I talked to via email when the situation happened . Bottom line is there is risk to any thing we use wether it's Minox, fin or experimentals . The advice I would give us consult your dr before starting treatment

[Amercancer]

Lilpauly, r u on it? If yes what do u think of it.

[Amercancer]

I'm just wondering why nobody talks about RU as much? It's been out for a while now. I'm lost, I don't know if I should continue with it. I know if I c a doctor he will tell me not to use something that's not FDA approved. I just want to know about others that are using this stuff.

[lilpauly]

I'm just wondering why nobody talks about RU as much? It's been out for a while now. I'm lost, I don't know if I should continue with it. I know if I c a doctor he will tell me not to use something that's not FDA approved. I just want to know about others that are using this stuff.

Lots of people use ru . I do. For the most part people experience less sides in ru then fin ,

[burtandernie]

Think about how you already know what a doctor would you tell you. Why do you think most medical professionals would advise against that? Everyone makes their own decisions though.

[rdawg]

Ru and CB are the two most interesting grey market products.

CB sounds much better in theory(no systemic absorbtion, use it less etc.) but somehow for whatever reason after years we still don't know what vehicle to use, so there's little point in buying it now, but that may change soon.

I've always been a little skeptical of RU, I dont think it's any more affective than fin, as in very few have a great reaction(thicken up) but the vast majority just maintain. And the sides seem to be similar for the most part from what I read, but for some it may be a good alternative.

[cookies]

In Cosmo's presentation from november they mentioned amendements in their cb trails due to a change in formulation (http://www.cosmopharmaceuticals.com/...Healthcare.pdf see p29).

Was this already know? I haven't seen anyone discussing it here.