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  • win200
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    Damn--went on vacation, forgot my CB at home. Anyone have an idea of how greatly I'll be impacted by missing six days of CB application? Still on fin and minoxidil, so I doubt it'll make too much of a difference.

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  • DanWS
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    adam k how are things going with your research?

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  • HairBane
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    How exactly would CB be administered by iontophoresis to the scalp? I can't wrap my head around the logistics of that.

    Also, has anyone had any success maintaining with JUST CB on any of the forums? Which vehicle did they use?

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  • lilpauly
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    Originally posted by lothar99
    You're referring to a different cream from the patent that was widely used before. Form 3 cream is a "fluid cream" with a different formulation. Hasn't been used before up until very recently, unless people mixed it up themselves, as far as I know. Only heard results from one person on it so far but so far very good.
    ^ correct but the ingredients are the same . mineral oil is not very good for the hair. im going to replace it with coconut oil.

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  • lothar99
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    Originally posted by pat
    I thought the cream was best for acne, not hair....

    I would be more hopeful for the CB Nano Solution which we need ASAP!!!

    You're referring to a different cream from the patent that was widely used before. Form 3 cream is a "fluid cream" with a different formulation. Hasn't been used before up until very recently, unless people mixed it up themselves, as far as I know. Only heard results from one person on it so far but so far very good.

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  • pat
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    Originally posted by lilpauly
    Yes man nano would be amazing
    please keep us updated on that

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  • lilpauly
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    Originally posted by pat
    I thought the cream was best for acne, not hair....

    I would be more hopeful for the CB Nano Solution which we need ASAP!!!
    Yes man nano would be amazing

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  • pat
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    Originally posted by lilpauly
    I'm thinking of changing the mineral with coconut oil. This cream is very very very cheap to make
    I thought the cream was best for acne, not hair....

    I would be more hopeful for the CB Nano Solution which we need ASAP!!!

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  • lilpauly
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    Originally posted by lothar99
    Actually the cream in the patent calls for 47.5% water.

    [0070] Prepare a fluid cream containing 2% cetylic alcohol, 16% glyceryl monostearate, 10% vaseline oil, 13% propylene glycol, 10% polyethylenglycol with low polymerization 1.5% polysorbate 80 and 47.5% purified water. Add 1 g of cortexolone 17α-propionate of crystalline form III to 100 g of this cream and subject the mixture to homogenisation by means of a turbine agitator until you obtain homogeneity. You obtain a cream containing a fraction of an active ingredient dissolved in the formulation vehicle and a non-dissolved fraction of an active ingredient, present as a crystal of crystalline form III. This preparation is suitable for use as a formulation vehicle for skin penetration tests on Franz cells, where a coefficient of penetration in the range of 0.04 to 0.03 cm/h is observed on the preparation.

    This is not the same cream that was relatively ineffective with CB before.
    I'm thinking of changing the mineral with coconut oil. This cream is very very very cheap to make

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  • lothar99
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    Originally posted by sdsurfin
    that sounds like maybe some kind of allergy. also, pretty sure cosmo specified that CB should be in a non-aqueous vehicle. Maybe it's the ethanol that your body doesn't like. A lot of people get puffy on rogaine too. Plus who knows what the chinese are really selling you.
    Actually the cream in the patent calls for 47.5% water.

    [0070] Prepare a fluid cream containing 2% cetylic alcohol, 16% glyceryl monostearate, 10% vaseline oil, 13% propylene glycol, 10% polyethylenglycol with low polymerization 1.5% polysorbate 80 and 47.5% purified water. Add 1 g of cortexolone 17α-propionate of crystalline form III to 100 g of this cream and subject the mixture to homogenisation by means of a turbine agitator until you obtain homogeneity. You obtain a cream containing a fraction of an active ingredient dissolved in the formulation vehicle and a non-dissolved fraction of an active ingredient, present as a crystal of crystalline form III. This preparation is suitable for use as a formulation vehicle for skin penetration tests on Franz cells, where a coefficient of penetration in the range of 0.04 to 0.03 cm/h is observed on the preparation.

    This is not the same cream that was relatively ineffective with CB before.

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  • pat
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    Originally posted by sdsurfin
    I was using CB from an american lab (it was retardedly expensive), and it ran out in two weeks, but experienced no sides in ethanol/pg. There's a very slight possibility that it induced slightly more vivid dreams, so if anything i'd be worried about its effect on sleep, but definitely no sexual sides. "a slight tingle in the testicles" and "less frequent erections" are some pretty dubious sides, that could be cause by pretty much anything, and sound pretty hypochodriacal. also who really gives a **** if your ball is slightly tender, as long as it doesnt develop into something else. I was on fin and it gave me incredibly sore testicles, headaches, weak erections etc. A lot of people on fin have sore balls that go away after a bit. I stopped that shit because it really did make my head hurt whenever i took it, and made me feel generally poisoned, depressed, anxious, all of which went away after stopping. I really doubt CB gives serious side effects unless you're allergic to it or something, but these sides these users are describing seem like they are all in the head. any drug, even aspirin, is going to change things up in your body slightly. ask anyone over 25, and they'll tell you they get erections less frequently. The stress of hair loss alone can make your libido garbage. I would not be discouraged from trying CB, even in the two weeks i used it the itch went away completely, so at least as an anti inflammatory it seems to be useful. my hair loss isnt too bad yet and hard to gauge, so i'd be interested to know if it works wonders for people with rapid and very obvious loss.
    which lab?

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  • sdsurfin
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    CB

    that sounds like maybe some kind of allergy. also, pretty sure cosmo specified that CB should be in a non-aqueous vehicle. Maybe it's the ethanol that your body doesn't like. A lot of people get puffy on rogaine too. Plus who knows what the chinese are really selling you.

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  • Cob984
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    I just used some cb in ethanol/water vehicle with only half the dosage
    same ****ing sides again, my sides arent much libido related, its this puffiness that rapidly appears, its as if my stomach bloats up instantaneously, my body shape just becomes really weird, dont know how to explain it

    I get none of these sides using KB, this is really bemusing, i think the kb just destroys the cb molecule or what i dont know

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  • sdsurfin
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    CB

    I was using CB from an american lab (it was retardedly expensive), and it ran out in two weeks, but experienced no sides in ethanol/pg. There's a very slight possibility that it induced slightly more vivid dreams, so if anything i'd be worried about its effect on sleep, but definitely no sexual sides. "a slight tingle in the testicles" and "less frequent erections" are some pretty dubious sides, that could be cause by pretty much anything, and sound pretty hypochodriacal. also who really gives a **** if your ball is slightly tender, as long as it doesnt develop into something else. I was on fin and it gave me incredibly sore testicles, headaches, weak erections etc. A lot of people on fin have sore balls that go away after a bit. I stopped that shit because it really did make my head hurt whenever i took it, and made me feel generally poisoned, depressed, anxious, all of which went away after stopping. I really doubt CB gives serious side effects unless you're allergic to it or something, but these sides these users are describing seem like they are all in the head. any drug, even aspirin, is going to change things up in your body slightly. ask anyone over 25, and they'll tell you they get erections less frequently. The stress of hair loss alone can make your libido garbage. I would not be discouraged from trying CB, even in the two weeks i used it the itch went away completely, so at least as an anti inflammatory it seems to be useful. my hair loss isnt too bad yet and hard to gauge, so i'd be interested to know if it works wonders for people with rapid and very obvious loss.

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  • Cob984
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    Vehicle has a huge effect,
    this i know for a fact, because i can put 50 mg in 1 ml of kb and experience 0 sides,
    but its also not really effective for the hair

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