Dermarolling Community Trial

[the_dude78]

I think its all the same. 192 needles will basically mean you'd have to roll more. I'd go with the 540 needles to make sure you don't miss any spots.

Makes sense, however this guy in the link talks about the different needle sizes, and in the comments he recommends 192 needles since 540 will only cause unnecessary trauma and damage... I will do some more research before I decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzQisQzItIU

[hellouser]

Makes sense, however this guy in the link talks about the different needle sizes, and in the comments he recommends 192 needles since 540 will only cause unnecessary trauma and damage... I will do some more research before I decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzQisQzItIU

But the damage is exactly what needs to be done; wounding and regeneration with minoxidil causing a chain reaction of events... Minox --> PGE2 --> FGF9 --> Hair Follicle Neogenesis

[PrettyFly83]

http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/PrettyFly83/media/Crown1205-2307_zps515dd798.jpg.html

Hi Arashi

Hopefully you can view this will upload the originals too

[hellouser]

Hi All

First post here but long time reader.I added derma rolling to my regime about two months ago and without being overly optimistic I feel I'm getting some significant regrowth.

Quick facts, age 30, NW5 going on 6. Regime has been nothing until 3 months ago when I decided to try get some hair back before I left it too long. Started loosing at 21, NW4 at around 25 and shaved my hair No.0 since. Started Minox 3 months ago, added derma rolling 1 month in, hoping to get increased absorption. Added Vita C and MSM around same time. Been sticking to it since. Never done Finasteride but have and am still seriously considering.

Biggest plus for all reading this is that Ive been taking pics fairly frequently so maybe people can add their opinion on my presumed regrowth or not....hopefully the pic has uploaded

I can clearly see new hair follicles!

What kind of dermaroller are you using and how many needles does it have?

Thanks for posting!!

[bananana]

some more zoomed in shots...didnt realize they get down scaled so much...

:O

these results are VERY good! Congrats man, there are clearly new (old) hairs growing on your scalp.

[the_dude78]

a bit more info http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermaroller-review/

[bigentries]

But the damage is exactly what needs to be done; wounding and regeneration with minoxidil causing a chain reaction of events... Minox --> PGE2 --> FGF9 --> Hair Follicle Neogenesis

My guess is that less needles are better because of the pressure

Think of the bed of nails trick, the nails don't penetrate because all the pressure is well distributed. I'm afraid the same happens with dermarollers, I also have one with 540 needles and I think the reason why I don't feel too much pain is because the needles never penetrate that far

I will buy one with less needles and then report my experience

[hellouser]

My guess is that less needles are better because of the pressure

Think of the bed of nails trick, the nails don't penetrate because all the pressure is well distributed. I'm afraid the same happens with dermarollers, I also have one with 540 needles and I think the reason why I don't feel too much pain is because the needles never penetrate that far

I will buy one with less needles and then report my experience

Excellent point! That also may hold true for getting into spots where there is already hair, should give even better penetration.

[hellouser]

a bit more info http://owndoc.com/dermarolling/dermaroller-review/

Thank you! This is great!

[PrettyFly83]

Thanks guys

Ive been quietly optimistic about the results but every week it seems to be getting stronger. I think we're onto something here and I have to say, without this forum I would never have tried anything like this! Lets just hope those small hairs continue getting thicker and stronger but they are literally covering 80% of my previous bald spots.

My Regime detailed as follows:
1. 2 x minox (generic) morning and evening applications.
2. 1 gram Vita C & 2 grams MSM (now doing for health benefits but started because of the VitC MSM thread).
3. Weekly derma rolling with minox immediately after.
4. Nizoral Shampoo every two days.

My derma roller is a standard 0.5mm 192 needle titanium tipped model - when I researched them, various brochures said "0.5mm for hair growth through increased topical absorption". When I roll it hurts though, not sure if its because of my thin skin, lack of hair or the pressure I use. I get a lot of blood! I then minox immediately after and it burns a bit probably from the alcohol in the minox. Stops bleeding within seconds. I roll in a multiway criss cross pattern over the entire scalp.

I'll keep this regime going until end November giving it 6 months. If it works, GREAT, forum closed and we can all get on with our lives, if not add another failure to the endless list and keep trying.

Thoughts? Opinions?

This looks like mine but I have the 0.5mm model

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZGTS-Luxury-Titanium-Micro-Needle-DermaRoller-ALL-SIZES-/251203855254?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Skincare_PP&var=&hash=item3a7ceaa396

[walrus]

Have you noticed any regrowth on the temples?

[hellouser]

Thanks guys

Ive been quietly optimistic about the results but every week it seems to be getting stronger. I think we're onto something here and I have to say, without this forum I would never have tried anything like this! Lets just hope those small hairs continue getting thicker and stronger but they are literally covering 80% of my previous bald spots.

My Regime detailed as follows:
1. 2 x minox (generic) morning and evening applications.
2. 1 gram Vita C & 2 grams MSM (now doing for health benefits but started because of the VitC MSM thread).
3. Weekly derma rolling with minox immediately after.
4. Nizoral Shampoo every two days.

My derma roller is a standard 0.5mm 192 needle titanium tipped model - when I researched them, various brochures said "0.5mm for hair growth through increased topical absorption". When I roll it hurts though, not sure if its because of my thin skin, lack of hair or the pressure I use. I get a lot of blood! I then minox immediately after and it burns a bit probably from the alcohol in the minox. Stops bleeding within seconds. I roll in a multiway criss cross pattern over the entire scalp.

I'll keep this regime going until end November giving it 6 months. If it works, GREAT, forum closed and we can all get on with our lives, if not add another failure to the endless list and keep trying.

Thoughts? Opinions?

This looks like mine but I have the 0.5mm model
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZGTS-Luxur...item3a7ceaa396

Awesome contribution!

I think I'm gonna splurge some dough on the same dermaroller, would like to mimic what guys WITH success are using.

I'm fairly active and have been keeping a pretty detailed log of my own results, so you guys can be sure if I get results I'll post photos.

My current regimen is ONLY minoxidil and nizoral. I'm gonna be ordering CB off Kane soon and will add that to my arsenal. I will probably use RU a few times to kickstart things, probably around the time I dermaroll. I have *some* left over, but it won't last long.

[JDW]

Thanks for the link, interesting about the smaller length, not sure to go with that or what the trial used...

[hellouser]

Thanks for the link, interesting about the smaller length, not sure to go with that or what the trial used...

Its not a definitive answer though. Skin thickness isn't the same on every persons scalp. You're probably better off getting a 1.5mm roller as it SHOULD penetrate, anything too short and you wont cause the minimal wounding and you'll probably just end up having to get a dermaroller with longer needles.

[DanWS]

I dont use minoxidil but I'm on fin... would it be worth me trying this out or is minoxidil essential to the results?