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  • Tracy C
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 3083

    Originally posted by hellouser
    A member on another forum got fantastic results on CB...
    One case that is not formally documented by a credible observer is not good evidence. You want good evidence? Find many cases that are formally documented by credible observers. Anything less is garbage.

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    • doke
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1464

      Originally posted by Tracy C
      A male should not touch Spiro in any form.

      Don't believe everything you see on Youtube.
      Tracy im not sure if you are a beginner in this hair loss field but spironolactone as a topical for mpb does not cause systemic problems like oral finasteride so its safer than the latter.
      Men should not use oral spiro due to feminising affects although there were some guys trying it on a low dose which i would not,one over 60 year old was using it for under medical conditions after 6 years regrew all his hair that had been bald for many years.
      It was talked about on other forums that spiro topical was as good as topical flutamide which we know can enter the body and was safe to use also can be used on face for acne.
      By the way tracy spiro was not seen by me on you tube i have used it on and off for many years and have returned to using it with miconazol nitrate and its going well i have ceased using minoxidil.

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      • hiilikeyourbeard
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 138

        we all love hellouser. he's a very helpful member on many forums and knows his sh%t

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        • wheresMYhairDUDE
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 23

          Originally posted by Tracy C
          One case that is not formally documented by a credible observer is not good evidence. You want good evidence? Find many cases that are formally documented by credible observers. Anything less is garbage.
          I completely agree with you but this is the problem - as I browse forums there are as many different treatment 'regimes' as there are hair loss sufferers. Unless everybody with a treatment 'regime' follows a set procedure of documenting what they are doing & using and the results we will never get a true picture of what helps, what doesn't and how good/bad the results are.

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          • StayThick
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 624

            Originally posted by wheresMYhairDUDE
            I completely agree with you but this is the problem - as I browse forums there are as many different treatment 'regimes' as there are hair loss sufferers. Unless everybody with a treatment 'regime' follows a set procedure of documenting what they are doing & using and the results we will never get a true picture of what helps, what doesn't and how good/bad the results are.
            Exactly. This is the problem and what I was trying to explain to Hellouser.

            He's on point though with the fact the longer I wait the more hair I lose. I'll try CB myself because I'd want to know if it could work for me, but I haven't heard or seen any documented case of CB producing results outside of what Hellouser just stated...which by the way I trust his opinion, but its tough to have confidence on one random case.

            I'll let everyone know when I start CB and go from there because I don't know who exactly is trialing it right now outside of Hellouser and possibly LilPauly.

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            • HARIRI
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 467

              Same here StayThick, I will also start CB once its available at Iron Dragon as a pre mixed ready form to be used right away. Its very hard to get alcohol in the Middle East. I will use CB and Minox together once a day before bedtime and swallow one capsule of Keratene Alphactive Retard along the way. Im so thankful that there is an intelligent member like Hellouser in this golden forum :-)

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              • wheresMYhairDUDE
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 23

                Originally posted by StayThick
                Exactly. This is the problem and what I was trying to explain to Hellouser.

                He's on point though with the fact the longer I wait the more hair I lose. I'll try CB myself because I'd want to know if it could work for me, but I haven't heard or seen any documented case of CB producing results outside of what Hellouser just stated...which by the way I trust his opinion, but its tough to have confidence on one random case.

                I'll let everyone know when I start CB and go from there because I don't know who exactly is trialing it right now outside of Hellouser and possibly LilPauly.
                Sounds like we need to;
                1. Get a CB takers forum going.
                2. Agree a formal documentation procedure (pics/CB dose & vehicle/results tracking)

                If we can assemble a number of people who commit to following an agreed process it will put us in a better position where we're at least doing something semi-scientific and will be able to judge with some degree of certainty what variations of CB are/aren't working.

                I'd be up for giving CB a go

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                • doke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1464

                  you guys here crack me up as nothing has proved to regrow any hair best check with spencer or joe of staton island but these products are experimental with no proof of any human trials for safety i myself have been duped into trying ru and that a&g complex a few years back and lost money doing it.
                  I saying this now as many newbee looking at this forum will get confused as i am as well i say to these young guys use proved products that have been through trials and are relative safe to use.
                  I myself am using cheap as chips products with the proved drugs.

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                  • doke
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 1464

                    by the way anyone still on trx2 which is another con trick and if anyone wants to know my regrime its miconazol nitrate which i have some already mixed with emu oil and i have started putting neat 2% micon on scalp before i apply minoxidil that has prop glycol in and is really cheap to buy.
                    Already had a hairmax laser 9 lux which i got cheap off ebay but i think i need a more powerful laser like omg site states for hair loss.
                    I also make my own benonite clay with av mix and some tea tree oil which i have been a bit lazy to use lately.
                    Have i had any regrowth well i have buzzed my hair again to see if this new regrime can do anything and i now have zero hair loss in drain and i forgot im on dutasteride 0.5mg a day as propecia did nothing for me,and also biotin and silica.
                    I got all this stuff cheaper than buying ru from kane or mpb treatments and hope i can get success.
                    I have at my age come to learn not to get excited with these companies saying they have a product in the pipeline and then it comes to nothing giving false hope to us.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by doke
                      by the way anyone still on trx2 which is another con trick and if anyone wants to know my regrime its miconazol nitrate which i have some already mixed with emu oil and i have started putting neat 2% micon on scalp before i apply minoxidil that has prop glycol in and is really cheap to buy.
                      Already had a hairmax laser 9 lux which i got cheap off ebay but i think i need a more powerful laser like omg site states for hair loss.
                      I also make my own benonite clay with av mix and some tea tree oil which i have been a bit lazy to use lately.
                      Have i had any regrowth well i have buzzed my hair again to see if this new regrime can do anything and i now have zero hair loss in drain and i forgot im on dutasteride 0.5mg a day as propecia did nothing for me,and also biotin and silica.
                      I got all this stuff cheaper than buying ru from kane or mpb treatments and hope i can get success.
                      I have at my age come to learn not to get excited with these companies saying they have a product in the pipeline and then it comes to nothing giving false hope to us.
                      This is not the thread for such comments.

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                      • fred970
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 922

                        I just rolled for the first time yesterday with a 1,5 mm roller. I follow the study as closely as possible, I tried to cause a mild whatever I don't remember the word and some blood appeared there and there. I'm using 5% minoxidil 6 days a week.

                        I'm NW5, so if there is a change in 3 months, I think it will be easy to spot.

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                        • clandestine
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2002

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          This is not the thread for such comments.
                          Agreed. And this is not the subforum to push proven treatments.

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                          • clandestine
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 2002

                            Originally posted by fred970
                            I just rolled for the first time yesterday with a 1,5 mm roller. I follow the study as closely as possible, I tried to cause a mild whatever I don't remember the word and some blood appeared there and there. I'm using 5% minoxidil 6 days a week.

                            I'm NW5, so if there is a change in 3 months, I think it will be easy to spot.
                            Take baseline photos dude.

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                            • thinningTooSoon
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 15

                              Hi,

                              I am really keen to start this trial myself. Given the study you quote on this page, would you recommend trying the Theradome Laser Helmet alongside the derma rolling?

                              As a result of the recent dermarolling study (found here (http://www.ijtrichology.com/article.asp?issn=0974-7753;year=2013;volume=5;issue=1;spage=6;epage=11;aulast=Dhurat) and discussed here (http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=13348)), a crossforum trial has been proposed to attempt to emulate and enhance the results


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                              • cotto
                                Member
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 33

                                hi, im new in the forum but i´ve been reading for a while. I´m interested in the treatment and im taking tons of pics of my buzzed head, so if there is any regrow will be easy to know because i will take pics just after buzz my hair.
                                I got a question, my scalp gets pretty "descamed" due to minoxidil and will like to try minox just 24 after the dermarroling, its supossed that the minox is to induce wnt factors right so i will only use minox 2 times or three after dermarroling. It will be right?
                                I want to use foligain foam because the foam is advertised to be mild in the scalp, but i have heard that folligain foam contains lacetic acid and i dont know if will contrarrest the wnt procedure.
                                Sorry about my little english, greetings from spain.

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