Dermarolling Community Trial

[hellouser]

Wouldn't more absorption be a bad thing? We want it to work on the follicles, not potentially going into the bloodstream

Not necessarily. Absorption would be great for minox, it has very few and very mild side effects. RU going systemic would potentially be a bad thing, more or less giving similar side effects as Finasteride.

CB however, is the big one. Even if it hits the blood stream, it goes benign. But CB badly needs to get to the follicle... one could assume efficacy with dermarolling for CB could be as superior to Finasteride as Cosmo claims.

[StayThick]

Not necessarily. Absorption would be great for minox, it has very few and very mild side effects. RU going systemic would potentially be a bad thing, more or less giving similar side effects as Finasteride.

CB however, is the big one. Even if it hits the blood stream, it goes benign. But CB badly needs to get to the follicle... one could assume efficacy with dermarolling for CB could be as superior to Finasteride as Cosmo claims.

Thinking of dermarolling and using ID's CB. What are your thoughts Hellouser?

[hellouser]

Thinking of dermarolling and using ID's CB. What are your thoughts Hellouser?

If the purity of Iron Dragon's is legit, I'd be on it like flies on shit.

[john2399]

this thread is confusing...is it safe to use minox right after using dermaroller?

[Arashi]

this thread is confusing...is it safe to use minox right after using dermaroller?

They didn't do it on the same day in the test. Which makes sense.

[hellouser]

this thread is confusing...is it safe to use minox right after using dermaroller?

Side effects can lead to a very high heart rate. Some people don't get it, others do. If I were you, I'd run along with the trial, if there aren't results, I'd then try other means of mimicking the study (more frequent wounding +/- immediate application of Minoxidil).

[walrus]

this thread is confusing...is it safe to use minox right after using dermaroller?

Probably not advisable.

[bigentries]

I just got my 1.5 dermarroller with 192 needles, I'll make a test to see how it works and I'm in

But I will wait two weeks, I have a small procedure done on saturday and I don't want any paranoia about side effects from the pills I'll need to take

If I see "something" it means that it works, I tried rogaine foam for almost a year 4 years ago and didn't noticed any improvement back then

[Hicks]

Is there a general consensus on what the best derma roller to buy is?

A good one??? Hate for a needle to break off in your head.

I'm thinking of starting a Google blog updated weekly with my regimen. Include issues, thoughts, pictures, basically a mini article. These threads are getting big. I don't have time to read them all.

The idea is to damage the area enough so blood would travel to the area for self healing? That's my plan of attack. Absorbing is second.

[hellouser]

A good one??? Hate for a needle to break off in your head.

I'm thinking of starting a Google blog updated weekly with my regimen. Include issues, thoughts, pictures, basically a mini article. These threads are getting big. I don't have time to read them all.

If you do decide to venture off and post your progress elsewhere, could you please let us know where we can see your results later on? Thanks!

The idea is to damage the area enough so blood would travel to the area for self healing? That's my plan of attack. Absorbing is second.

Exactly, this is NOT about absorption, although other topicals WILL benefit from this as well.

[HARIRI]

Guys please advice me regarding the instruction issue, some say to use it everyday after minoxidil application, some say to use it every other day, some say twice a week and some say once a week!!!

I'm quite lost here, please contribute with your expert opinion as I will receive mine next week.

[greatjob!]

Guys please advice me regarding the instruction issue, some say to use it everyday after minoxidil application, some say to use it every other day, some say twice a week and some say once a week!!!

I'm quite lost here, please contribute with your expert opinion as I will receive mine next week.

A lot of people aren't fully reading this thread or the study as I have said it a few times this is not about absorption, it is about wounding and activating growth factor pathways to reactivate dormant stem cells.

Just follow the study. They used the derma roller once a week and did not apply minoxidil on the day they micro-needled.

That is what produced the results in the study. If after 3-6 months you see no improvement then you can experiment, but minoxidil that goes systemic can be very dangerous depending on your heart health, so I would be cautious about increasing absorption.

[PrettyFly83]

A lot of people aren't fully reading this thread or the study as I have said it a few times this is not about absorption, it is about wounding and activating growth factor pathways to reactivate dormant stem cells.

Just follow the study. They used the derma roller once a week and did not apply minoxidil on the day they micro-needled.

That is what produced the results in the study. If after 3-6 months you see no improvement then you can experiment, but minoxidil that goes systemic can be very dangerous depending on your heart health, so I would be cautious about increasing absorption.

Bingo!

[Hicks]

If you do decide to venture off and post your progress elsewhere, could you please let us know where we can see your results later on? Thanks!

I will put a link in my signature or I might be able to do the blog on this site. I'm new to the site and do not know all the features. Thinking of doing Video as well so Google with blog and YouTube might be easiest. Thanks guys!

[the_dude78]

The patients in the study had their head shaved before the treatment began, is it just me, or did their hair grow a lot in only 12 weeks? And a 40 % increase in hair count, well, it does sound a little too good to be true. I'm becoming more and more skeptical, but I just can't figure out what they would gain from faking a study like this. It is too easy to replicate and debunk so it couldn't possibly help their career in any way.