Dermarolling Community Trial

[bigentries]

You are way off topic and making irrelevant comparisons. Why would you discourage people to stop rolling after 12 weeks? What does anyone gain from that? That's what makes no sense.

I know what the study said and what the time frame was, however show me one single treatment for hairloss that you would expect to show results at 3 months. They don't exist. So thinking that if you don't see results after 3 months then everyone should stop, isn't logical. This was a pilot study, if a follow up study was conducted it would no doubt have longer and varying time periods. So I don't think we should be trying to replicate the study exactly with regards to the time frame, instead we should be trying to conduct our own follow up study to see if results can improve with an increase in duration.

Also speaking up against snake oils that are very expensive is good for everyone, because it saves people money. However that is not equivalent to speaking up about derma rolling, it cost next to nothing so by speaking up and getting people to stop you're not really helping anyone. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing and trying to show people on the internet that you have a superior scientific mind, trust me we are all so impressed.

Did you seriously stopped so low as to use an insulting gif? Are your arguments not enought?

So what I understand is that, you don't believe the study could show results in 3 months? Then you are admitting you think the study is bogus

If the study claimed it took them 6 months to show results, I would advice everyone to do it as it is described by study. But the study is very clear, 3 months is enough, and if nothing shows up in 3 months, then we either need to question the legitimacy of the study, or the way we are perform it it

But people are getting defensive and don't want to question either one of those possibilities

Instead of fighting like children, let's argue and try to understand this

Why are there no results yet? Things are not going well

My position is that most of us are doing exactly what the study says, at least the ones that are using 1.5mm needles until slight hemorrhage occurs.
I don't trust the study completely now, since people are starting to claim the pictures labeled as 12-week results are said to be 1 year results

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

friends how you do?

my roller arrives soon.,...

please god make it work....

Levon give us some pics...we hair starve haire...

good night brothers

[chimera]

Alright, alright, break it up guys.

Let's get a head count.
How many people do we have out there following the study? Lurkers this includes you. Sign in.

There are many meticulously curious people in here. To avoid further questions and chaos, it would be nice if we also point out the rest of our treatment (minox, fin, keto or whatever, and since how long have we been on these).

[greatjob!]

Did you seriously stopped so low as to use an insulting gif? Are your arguments not enought?

So what I understand is that, you don't believe the study could show results in 3 months? Then you are admitting you think the study is bogus

If the study claimed it took them 6 months to show results, I would advice everyone to do it as it is described by study. But the study is very clear, 3 months is enough, and if nothing shows up in 3 months, then we either need to question the legitimacy of the study, or the way we are perform it it

But people are getting defensive and don't want to question either one of those possibilities

Instead of fighting like children, let's argue and try to understand this

Why are there no results yet? Things are not going well

My position is that most of us are doing exactly what the study says, at least the ones that are using 1.5mm needles until slight hemorrhage occurs.
I don't trust the study completely now, since people are starting to claim the pictures labeled as 12-week results are said to be 1 year results

Well you seemed to only focus on the GIF when you should have focused on what I said like:

This was a pilot study, if a follow up study was conducted it would no doubt have longer and varying time periods. So I don't think we should be trying to replicate the study exactly with regards to the time frame, instead we should be trying to conduct our own follow up study to see if results can improve with an increase in duration.

I could really careless what you think about the study or derma rolling in general. I'm going to do this for a year. If it does nothing then I'll stop.I just don't see the point in trying to convince people to stop the treatment after 12 weeks, but whatever have fun.

[bigentries]

I could really careless what you think about the study or derma rolling in general. I'm going to do this for a year. If it does nothing then I'll stop.I just don't see the point in trying to convince people to stop the treatment after 12 weeks, but whatever have fun.

But why do a "follow up" if you don't know if the first study is right in the first place?

Seriously, I don't understand the logic you are using, the point of this thread was to replicate the study, to avoid all variables and see if the numbers added up.
There are also studies concerning laser helmets and CG 210, in case you want to try those too.

Anyway, my info:
3 years on fin
4 years ago used minox for a year, stopped after seeing no results
7 weeks applying minox, 6 weeks dermarolling
Nothing to report concerning results, no increased shedding, no vellus hair

[bibz]

3th session of 2.0mm dermarolling just like the clinical trial but only on the temple area and hairline, and i got a ****ing huge shedding on these area, is that a good or bad sign guyz?

[greatjob!]

But why do a "follow up" if you don't know if the first study is right in the first place?

Seriously, I don't understand the logic you are using, the point of this thread was to replicate the study, to avoid all variables and see if the numbers added up.
There are also studies concerning laser helmets and CG 210, in case you want to try those too.

I'm not performing a study with anyone, that's my point. Why are you so concerned with trying to convince people to stop rolling after 12 weeks, who cares. If you want to follow the study to the exact letter and stop after 12 weeks then that's fine, but why do you think other people should do the same?

I'm not trying to produce a study, I'm trying to regrow my hair and I don't expect that to happen in 3 months so I'm going to give it more time. You and everyone else are free to do what ever you like. You don't see me trying to convince people to roll as long as me, because frankly I don't care and I am perplexed why you or any one else does. I really don't know what bad you think could possibly come from people rolling longer than 12 weeks. I'm not altering the method at all besides giving more time to see results because I don't see any point in not giving it more time, I lose nothing by doing so. Anyways I don't care about this enough to continue to engage in a pointless circular argument with you, if you want to try and get everyone to stop rolling at 12 weeks knock yourself out.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

everybody roll

everybody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wyk-AOAUuo

[Tracy C]

Thought I typically don't like you tracey...

Most of the guys here do not like to hear the truth and that is exactly why they, like you, do not like me. Honestly, that's ya'lls problem.

Now spell my name right. LOL

[john2399]

friends how you do?

my roller arrives soon.,...

please god make it work....

Levon give us some pics...we hair starve haire...

good night brothers

God don't care about hairloss.

[JDW]

3th session of 2.0mm dermarolling just like the clinical trial but only on the temple area and hairline, and i got a ****ing huge shedding on these area, is that a good or bad sign guyz?

Are you using minoxidil with it? how long have you been using it if so?

[DesperateOne]

3th session of 2.0mm dermarolling just like the clinical trial but only on the temple area and hairline, and i got a ****ing huge shedding on these area, is that a good or bad sign guyz?

How in the world are we able to know if you're shedding from anything if you haven't shared your story?

We need to know when you started to use finasteride(if you're on it), minoxidil or any other topical meant for MPB.

Although, I have to mention that I had my hair loss relatively controlled and now that I started to derma roll, I have seen a massive shed in the last month, this is my second month, if that means anything.

[Tracy C]

This is my third Sunday night with this - did I mention that this hurts a lot. I will soldier on through though to see what happens in four to six months.

[StayThick]

Guys I'm slowly seeing terminal hair in the corners of my hairline (areas where I vigorously apply) that I haven't seen in years. Im slowly getting very excited.

I obviously need much more regrowth to be satisfied and to gain the necessary coverage, but clearly this has some substance to it. I will no doubt keep with this.

[chimera]

Guys I'm slowly seeing terminal hair in the corners of my hairline (areas where I vigorously apply) that I haven't seen in years. Im slowly getting very excited.

I obviously need much more regrowth to be satisfied and to gain the necessary coverage, but clearly this has some substance to it. I will no doubt keep with this.

How many weeks have you been on it?