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  • bigentries
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 465

    Originally posted by Pentarou
    How is this like indomethacin? This is based around a journal article, not some anonymous person on a hair loss forum claiming something without evidence.
    Indomethacin was also based in poorly understood trials, and the guy at recuperaelpelo provided questionable evidence

    The dermarolling turned into another quack treatment the moment people started to diverge from the study, and not only by increasing the period required to see results, people are starting to use semen at ***!

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    • DesperateOne
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 289

      Originally posted by bigentries
      So they lied about the pictures? The pictures clearly say they are at 12 weeks


      Why 6 months?
      Again, I don't understand this kind of rationale people use when a treatment is not going the way they expected

      This year people used the same rationale with indomethacin, just wait and pray, don't question anything

      I'll complete the 12 weeks, but I'm realistic, people should stop reasoning with naive optimism

      And we don't have "5 out of 10" if 50% of people trying it would be getting some results, I would be claiming this is a potential treatment in the future. Besides Prettyfly, no one has provided evidence of regrowth
      No I mean the before and after where it shows their entire head and you could see cosmeticly good results. They said they followed up about 8 months later and those are the pictures they posted, after the 8 months to a year.
      However, you are right that we have every right to question certain procedures specially since we now have great insight into follicas method.


      After reading a lot and this derma study, I have a theory that makes sense to me. To me what we are doing by replicating this study is not the holy grail of hair follicle neogenesis, there is simply more peices of the puzzle we need for that, more recently we vitaly need an egfr inhibitor In order to to turn cells into follicles. Also, this study mentions one week intervals, when follica is clearly waiting at least two weeks, we are simply not giving it enough time to let the wounds heal.
      So it seems that by going by the study protocol, we are revitalizing the scalp with nutrients and hair does grow thicker and also some hair that was lost but has not perished, will regrow again as vellus or terminal hair. So again, the study wil not produce new follicles at the current protocol, just my analysis, so take it with a grain of salt.

      The invention features methods, kits, and compositions for generating new hair follicles and growing hair on a subject.

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      • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 638

        its not only pretty fly results ,,more people get results.... for sure.i saw...

        just check the forums better,,,,

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        • bigentries
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 465

          Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
          its not only pretty fly results ,,more people get results.... for sure.i saw...

          just check the forums better,,,,
          Who? at *** a guy posted pictures of his hair at a considerable distance and blurry, there is no way to tell if something is happening

          Other people claiming results at *** are new users that didn't took pictures or are claiming that they "don't need to prove anything"

          You keep repeating people are posting results, where are they?

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          • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 638

            look my friend i dont win anything either you believe or not...

            scroll the pages .for you
            Originally posted by bigentries
            Who? at *** a guy posted pictures of his hair at a considerable distance and blurry, there is no way to tell if something is happening

            Other people claiming results at *** are new users that didn't took pictures or are claiming that they "don't need to prove anything"

            You keep repeating people are posting results, where are they?

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            • bigentries
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 465

              Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
              look my friend i dont win anything either you believe or not...

              scroll the pages .for you
              Scroll the pages? What do you mean?

              At least name a few or stop claiming people are posting their results (outside of anecdotal evidence)

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              • MackJames
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 165

                I'm going to following the protocol of the study meticulously until the end of the year. The protocol is straight forward and easy to follow. There is very little chance of causing harm in comparison to the oter experiments some have partaken in. I'm a pretty objective person and if I see no results I will be honest about it.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by MackJames
                  I'm going to following the protocol of the study meticulously until the end of the year. The protocol is straight forward and easy to follow. There is very little chance of causing harm in comparison to the oter experiments some have partaken in. I'm a pretty objective person and if I see no results I will be honest about it.
                  Your hair will tell the story. No need for being objective :P

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                  • MackJames
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 165

                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    Your hair will tell the story. No need for being objective :P


                    Some people see things they want to see out of desperation for a viable treatment.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      Originally posted by MackJames
                      Some people see things they want to see out of desperation for a viable treatment.
                      Those people have bigger problems than hair loss. Too bad theyre allowed to speak in public.... this forum included.

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                      • MackJames
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 165

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Those people have bigger problems than hair loss. Too bad theyre allowed to speak in public.... this forum included.
                        I feel for them and their struggle but I also agree with you. It's time to see a therapist when one starts putting semen on their head.

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                        • chimera
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 171

                          Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                          look my friend i dont win anything either you believe or not...

                          scroll the pages .for you
                          What are you talking about?, DesperatOne in here, super and squeeguee on ***, and dodgept on hlh... who else besides this guys have posted pics?

                          Not only that, but the pics posted by all those guys are just useless. Bad quality with no before pictures.

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                          • chimera
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 171

                            Still... who knows?... we still have one more month ahead of us... maybe will see something that makes continue with the dermaroller worth...

                            If by november most of us see at least a considerable (and beyond any doubt) amount of at least just vellus hair, I would still say this is worth a shoot...

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                            • chimera
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 171

                              Originally posted by chimera
                              Not only that, but the pics posted by all those guys are just useless. Bad quality with no before pictures.
                              Excluding prettyfly pictures. Those were good quality (though hard to tell if his results are from dermaroller plus minox or just minox alone).

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                              • DesperateOne
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 289

                                Originally posted by chimera
                                What are you talking about?, DesperatOne in here, super and squeeguee on ***, and dodgept on hlh... who else besides this guys have posted pics?

                                Not only that, but the pics posted by all those guys are just useless. Bad quality with no before pictures.
                                Everyone, just disregard chimera and his negativity. We should see this all the way, at least six months since that's how long it usually takes for new hair to appear. Don't mind his armchair scientist ego let you down, we all feel a difference. We obviously donh have super high quality cameras to take before and after pictures to make this pawn believe us. Nor do we have to prove anything to him, this is all experimentation and he has forgotten about that part.

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