A Social Experiment - LETS END MPB TOGETHER

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  • yeahyeahyeah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1776

    #31
    Originally posted by hellouser
    Didn't Aderans buyout Intercytex? Would it not be possible for Aderans to get bought out by someone else and continue the work?

    Still, and I can't stress me interest enough:

    Since Aderans has completed all Phase I and II trials, what's stopping them from releasing a commercial product in Asia where Phase III isn't required???
    Guys, there is a reason why the new board has cut funding. The product probably didnt work.

    I'm sure if it did work, they wouldn't have don't that.

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    • k3nk3n
      Junior Member
      • May 2013
      • 28

      #32
      Yes

      $500 canadian

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #33
        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
        Guys, there is a reason why the new board has cut funding. The product probably didnt work.

        I'm sure if it did work, they wouldn't have don't that.
        Not necessarily. We do know that the Aderans treatment DID work to some extent.

        But we're not taking into account that they got about a decade's worth of funding without speedy progress, perhaps they're pulling out for other reasons?

        Everyone one of us has complained that Aderans is taking too long... just think how pissed the board members must have been; 'We want results and we want a profit NOW, not 10 years and counting of bullshitting around!'

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        • elytsdrah
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 1

          #34
          1) Yes
          2) 100-300€

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          • Pentarou
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 482

            #35
            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
            Guys, there is a reason why the new board has cut funding. The product probably didnt work.

            I'm sure if it did work, they wouldn't have don't that.
            There have been other treatments abandoned by Big Pharma during trial phases, despite being proven to work (*OBLIGATORY MENTION OF RU 58841 IN BTT THREAD*).

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #36
              Originally posted by Pentarou
              There have been other treatments abandoned by Big Pharma during trial phases, despite being proven to work (*OBLIGATORY MENTION OF RU 58841 IN BTT THREAD*).
              Quoted for truth.

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              • inspects
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 260

                #37
                I think it would make more sense for each member here to donate lets say $500.00 each so each member could get a transplant, it would be kind of a pyramid set-up, but it would work.

                Hold the monies in an escrow account and ask Spenser (or other trustworthy individual) if he would dole the money to each participants doctor(s) as each received the transplant they need.

                At least we could be assured of positive results for everyone with enough donor hair to make it happen.

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                • DepressedByHairLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 854

                  #38
                  Originally posted by inspects
                  I think it would make more sense for each member here to donate lets say $500.00 each so each member could get a transplant, it would be kind of a pyramid set-up, but it would work.

                  Hold the monies in an escrow account and ask Spenser (or other trustworthy individual) if he would dole the money to each participants doctor(s) as each received the transplant they need.

                  At least we could be assured of positive results for everyone with enough donor hair to make it happen.
                  The problem is that many people on here simply do not want a hair transplant due to the procedure's limitations and drawbacks. That's why I believe that Desmond specified that this proposed goal treatment would be cellular and non- or minimally-invasive.

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                  • inspects
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 260

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                    The problem is that many people on here simply do not want a hair transplant due to the procedure's limitations and drawbacks. That's why I believe that Desmond specified that this proposed goal treatment would be cellular and non- or minimally-invasive.
                    Oh I understand, I just don't see something like this coming to fruition. As we know it takes millions of dollars with no guarantee. And like others said, I don't think I would trust any company who is short on money trying to make it happen.

                    Additionally, I do respect all of Desmonds posts very highly, therefore I don't think his idea is out of line, it just probably would never work in my opinion.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      #40
                      This forum alone has around 28,000 members today. This does NOT include all the other forums either, but I could see the number of total people on forums that have signed up at some point in the last 5-10 years surpass 50,000 easily.

                      The problem is this:

                      Lets say we have an audience of 50,000. How many of those members are active? Of those active members, how many of them would be willing to make a donation? Of those donations, how many of them would be willing to make a donation of $500?

                      Let's be generous and say 5,000 people would make a donation. And lets say its about $100.00.

                      This gives you only $500,000. Thats still not enough for Aderans to go on with their research. Depending on the size of their team, that wouldn't even cover a years worth of salary for everyone (assume average yearly salary is 50k, that only gives you 10 people in their team to pay out). You can be sure its more than 10 people working at Aderans and you can sure as hell assume they make more than 50k/year.

                      I hate to sound like a debbie downer, but this initiative is small potatoes... really small.

                      Only way where it'd even be possible is if we got all the admins from all forums across the globe and be adamant about nearly EVERY member pitching in some cash.

                      But even then that poses a problem, as I remember reading about Microtransponder, a tinnitus treatment company, where they couldnt not receive funding from the public but only from larger entities... or individuals who've had an income of $250,000 in the last year... or something like that. You can BET on it that there are regulations on the funding for such a project.

                      So again, and still nobody has addressed this damn question i've raised:

                      Aderans completed Phase II testing. Asia doesn't require Phase III. Why not release in Asia NOW? Why are we so hellbent on the idea that a treatment must be done in USA? There is a world beyond your borders.

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                      • FearTheLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1581

                        #41
                        Yes.

                        $500

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                        • chimera
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 171

                          #42
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          So again, and still nobody has addressed this damn question i've raised:

                          Aderans completed Phase II testing. Asia doesn't require Phase III. Why not release in Asia NOW? Why are we so hellbent on the idea that a treatment must be done in USA? There is a world beyond your borders.
                          Aderans is a company, the goal of every company is to make money. They're not in this game because of charity, they want cash, and I bet they are willing to do everything in order to get it. They know what you know, they probably know much more than you know. If they don't release their product where they know they can, it's probably because they still don't have product enough to sell.

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                          • Banana Republic
                            Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 48

                            #43
                            1. Yes, of course.

                            2. If I were convinced it was worth it, perhaps a clean thousand (US).

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                            • greatjob!
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 909

                              #44
                              I volunteer to collect the money, I am trustworthy. I am even the president of a very large and prestigious Nigerian bank, so nothing to worry about

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                              • Cartech78
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 22

                                #45
                                No , to many people and companies take advantage of desperate people. I feel it will lead to the same crap that the existing companies slready dish out such as " we have the cure its coming" . The only thing that will be coming is more bullshit !!!

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