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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1581

    Originally posted by Arashi
    Can someone rename this thread into 'fin debate' and move it to the 20 year old meds section ?
    lmao actually tho

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    • didi
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1360

      lets talk about wigs




      NW-2

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      • greatjob!
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 909

        Originally posted by Arashi
        Can someone rename this thread into 'fin debate' and move it to the 20 year old meds section ?
        hahahaha!

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        • Aeroes
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 159

          Originally posted by KO1
          What does it mean, "sensitivity to hormones is different"? What causes "sensitivity to hormones" on a molecular level? You realize with fin, and especially dut, DHT levels are highly suppressed to barely there on dut. Even if someone was "not very sensitive", he would still be affected. Men have taken 5mg dutasteride (10x the recommended dose) for six months and felt no sides, some have even taken 40mg for a week with no adverse effects. With fin, I think people have taken daily dosages of 80mg, and single dosages of 400mg (!) with no adverse effects. I wonder what their DHT levels were...

          Yet, few people feel side effects.
          You have to be kidding yourself if you think few people get sides from taking
          5AR2 inhibitors. Sure there are people that it doesn't affect, i'm sure you realize DHT does more than just make your hair fall out. Anyway, i don't want to ruin this thread with a debate. Be a bit more respectful of people who did have a bad experience even if there is only a small amount of us lol.

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          • Tomb10
            Member
            • May 2013
            • 34

            Guys, how do you think about this..
            When you are a nw2 at the moment, and taking finas and minox.
            Then replicel of histogen will be a cure for these people, maybe in combination with dr wesley scarless fue for the hairline.

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            • WINGER
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 41

              I cant believe a load of numptys on a balding forum still constantly moan and fire f*cks into these 'Scientists' 'Doctors' who are trying their upmost to help us. At the end of the day if it wasn't for them we'd have no hope. Have a little respect for what they are trying to do to make your life better. They know more than you end of. They know what they are doing end of.

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              • PatientlyWaiting
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1637

                Not close.

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                • yeahyeahyeah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1776

                  Originally posted by KO1
                  What does it mean, "sensitivity to hormones is different"? What causes "sensitivity to hormones" on a molecular level? You realize with fin, and especially dut, DHT levels are highly suppressed to barely there on dut. Even if someone was "not very sensitive", he would still be affected. Men have taken 5mg dutasteride (10x the recommended dose) for six months and felt no sides, some have even taken 40mg for a week with no adverse effects. With fin, I think people have taken daily dosages of 80mg, and single dosages of 400mg (!) with no adverse effects. I wonder what their DHT levels were...

                  Yet, few people feel side effects.
                  Didnt you quit fin due to sides?

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                  • Javert
                    Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 99

                    Originally posted by Arashi
                    Can someone rename this thread into 'fin debate' and move it to the 20 year old meds section ?
                    Seriously.

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                    • hiilikeyourbeard
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 138

                      fin is relevant to this, because we have no cure and it's the best we have

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                      • cichlidfort
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 262

                        Originally posted by KO1
                        Cichlid...you still haven't told me why the vast majority of people don't experience sides if DHT is so crucial. By your logic, 100% of fin users will get reduced libido and ED....which is not true!

                        Let me know when you can babble a response.
                        It's time you do some research for yourself big guy. There are plenty of guys that have what they feel as "normal" DHT levels but still have problems with impotence, low libido, and erection dysfunction. Nitric oxide is the neurotransmitter that mediates increased blood flow in response to parasympathetic nerve stimulation which then diffuses into the smooth muscle cells of blood vessels. Fin not only disrupts DHT levels for some men but without sufficient N,O other neurotransmitters can be inhibited and pathways. I don't have the time nor the inclination to make you look like the retard you are about the long term affects of fin. The damage could be irreversible if your hypothalamus and pituitary gland have been negatively affected because it stopped producing these neurotransmitters since DHT was inhibited by Fin. Now I just have you the jist of it, go do some big joy research and educate yourself you ignorant little shit.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by cichlidfort
                          It's time you do some research for yourself big guy. There are plenty of guys that have what they feel as "normal" DHT levels but still have problems with impotence, low libido, and erection dysfunction. Nitric oxide is the neurotransmitter that mediates increased blood flow in response to parasympathetic nerve stimulation which then diffuses into the smooth muscle cells of blood vessels. Fin not only disrupts DHT levels for some men but without sufficient N,O other neurotransmitters can be inhibited and pathways. I don't have the time nor the inclination to make you look like the retard you are about the long term affects of fin. The damage could be irreversible if your hypothalamus and pituitary gland have been negatively affected because it stopped producing these neurotransmitters since DHT was inhibited by Fin. Now I just have you the jist of it, go do some big joy research and educate yourself you ignorant little shit.

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1581

                            I give it another 10 years or less until we are cured..or have something as good as a cure i.e. 100% donor regeneration.

                            Look how far we have come in the last 15 years transplant wise, we have scarless surgery coming into play, lots of doctors working on regeneration and lots of companies working towards new products...scientific knowledge increases drastically every year...we will get there, it may not be tomorrow or a year from now or 5 years from now...but soon enough we are going to have a cure... I give it 10 or less.

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                            • hiilikeyourbeard
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 138

                              Originally posted by cichlidfort
                              It's time you do some research for yourself big guy. There are plenty of guys that have what they feel as "normal" DHT levels but still have problems with impotence, low libido, and erection dysfunction. Nitric oxide is the neurotransmitter that mediates increased blood flow in response to parasympathetic nerve stimulation which then diffuses into the smooth muscle cells of blood vessels. Fin not only disrupts DHT levels for some men but without sufficient N,O other neurotransmitters can be inhibited and pathways. I don't have the time nor the inclination to make you look like the retard you are about the long term affects of fin. The damage could be irreversible if your hypothalamus and pituitary gland have been negatively affected because it stopped producing these neurotransmitters since DHT was inhibited by Fin. Now I just have you the jist of it, go do some big joy research and educate yourself you ignorant little shit.
                              lol someones dick doesn't work

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                              • Johnnynitro
                                Junior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 2

                                Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                                I give it another 10 years or less until we are cured..or have something as good as a cure i.e. 100% donor regeneration.

                                Look how far we have come in the last 15 years transplant wise, we have scarless surgery coming into play, lots of doctors working on regeneration and lots of companies working towards new products...scientific knowledge increases drastically every year...we will get there, it may not be tomorrow or a year from now or 5 years from now...but soon enough we are going to have a cure... I give it 10 or less.
                                This is it !!

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