So how close are we to a new 'cure'

[TravisB]

We have to be realistic, ask the guys who've been on these forums for 5 to 10 years or more, they expected to be fixed by now, and learnt the hard way to not expect too much too soon.

But you have to admit that probably never in history we had so many companies working at it at the same time.

Let's see, we have:

- Replicel
- Follica
- Histogen
- Aderans (but I'm not sure if they aren't dead)
- Cosmo with CB-03-01 (I personally put a lot of my faith into it, because it's a topical better than Fin and perhaps Dut with apparently no side effects)
- Bimatoprost (maybe)
- Tsuji Labs
- Dr. Lauster (maybe at some time)
- Dr. Nigam
- Dr. Mousseigne

So there's a chance that maybe not a total cure, but something better than Fin + Minox will come in 2 (Replicel plans to release their product in Asia in 2015) to 10 years. Tsuji Labs seem like they are the furthest away, but they have the potential to release real cure, as they have hair cloning. When the total cure will come, it will be most likely VERY expensive (at least at first) and unattainable for average man.

[greatjob!]

But I think it's safe to say there will be some type of product that is better than Fin in the next 3-5 years. I mean crap, in 5 years if we still haven't figured anything out the I have lost faith in humanity. This is ridiculous how painfully slow this is taking. Fin might be a solution to some but to others it's god awful.

Like I said before, I would love to believe that a better treatment is not too far off, but your 3-5 year claim is based completely on pure speculation. What evidence do you have that a better treatment will be here in 3-5 years? Sure there are far more people working on research now than before but there is zero evidence that we will have a viable treatment anytime soon. I don't base my reality on hopes and wishes, I base my reality on proof and evidence. To this point we have no real evidence that a cure or better treatment will be here soon, all we have is hopes and wishes.

[rdawg]

Unfortunately, even if a real 'cure' is found fairly soon, that doesn't mean that whatever it is would be available to purchase anytime soon after. (Unless of course it's something that can be accomplished through self-medication, off-label usage of existing drugs, or a home made dermabrasion contraption, but that is not likely.) We have to be realistic, ask the guys who've been on these forums for 5 to 10 years or more, they expected to be fixed by now, and learnt the hard way to not expect too much too soon.

Fair enough, but if something is found and has very concrete evidence behind it I could easily wait the 3-5 years it takes to get to market and owuld have alot of comfort knowing it's coming.

even seeing the research done and things like Histogen in the pipeline, there are more solutions on the way! Just have to see if they really help us. For now we have the grey market I suppose, and the hope that one of these things we find ourselves may actually work in the meantime(i.e Cetirizine or something).

[KO1]

Ahh time...Imperato-McGinley first noted the pseudo-hermaphrodites' 5AR deficiency in 1974, and 25 years later we got Propecia.

[Chromeo]

But I think it's safe to say there will be some type of product that is better than Fin in the next 3-5 years. I mean crap, in 5 years if we still haven't figured anything out the I have lost faith in humanity. This is ridiculous how painfully slow this is taking. Fin might be a solution to some but to others it's god awful.

Would like to agree with you but unfortunately things seem to move painfully slowly with regards to hairloss treatments. Even when things seem to be snowballing in terms of "breakthrough" discoveries, I would err on the side of caution (pessimism) in thinking that a viable cure is still years, if not a decade or so away. But again...it's all speculation. I hope I'm wrong.

[cichlidfort]

Totally agree. No-one has a clue, really. Pure speculation.

But I think it's safe to say there will be some type of product that is better than Fin in the next 3-5 years. I mean crap, in 5 years if we still haven't figured anything out the I have lost faith in humanity. This is ridiculous how painfully slow this is taking. Fin might be a solution to some but to others it's god awful.

[Chromeo]

Anyone saying a cure will be here in x amount of years is pulling that number out of their ass and basing it purely on speculation. Is there really good research going on? Yes. Is there a single shred of evidence that a successful treatment is coming anytime soon? No.

Everyone hear is saying "I think" a cure is coming, "this doctor is supposed to be doing" ect. This is all prue speculation based on very little information. No one here knows when a treatment is coming, but we will spend 50 pages of nonsense making wild assumption.

Totally agree. No-one has a clue, really. Pure speculation.

[Californication]

^You're a better man than me then. That aint that comforting to me, only annoying.

[cichlidfort]

All I know is whoever finds a better solution then Fin will make a boatload of money. The race is on for these companies...you would think. In a sense though, it's a comforting thought knowing my kids one day will never have to deal with this crap (I am 24).

[Pentarou]

This is a tough one to answer.

I think we are extremely close to FINDING that cure, or at least something that will cause significant growth or reinforcement.

Unfortunately, even if a real 'cure' is found fairly soon, that doesn't mean that whatever it is would be available to purchase anytime soon after. (Unless of course it's something that can be accomplished through self-medication, off-label usage of existing drugs, or a home made dermabrasion contraption, but that is not likely.) We have to be realistic, ask the guys who've been on these forums for 5 to 10 years or more, they expected to be fixed by now, and learnt the hard way to not expect too much too soon.

[TravisB]

I think by 2020 we should have something new on the market, hopefully better than Propecia + Minox (otherwise it doesn't make sense to release it).

2018 earliest, but I wouldn't count on it

[greatjob!]

Anyone saying a cure will be here in x amount of years is pulling that number out of their ass and basing it purely on speculation. Is there really good research going on? Yes. Is there a single shred of evidence that a successful treatment is coming anytime soon? No.

Everyone hear is saying "I think" a cure is coming, "this doctor is supposed to be doing" ect. This is all prue speculation based on very little information. No one here knows when a treatment is coming, but we will spend 50 pages of nonsense making wild assumption.

[rdawg]

This is a tough one to answer.

I think we are extremely close to FINDING that cure, or at least something that will cause significant growth or reinforcement.

Histogen already has proven to at least cause some growth, so in terms of an improved product, we already have one coming within a few years.

I think overall though, we are piecing together what is actually causing growth and maintainence.

PGD2, FGF9, all things that are causing us to get closer and closer to a solution, which is reason to be cautiosly optimistic.

are we 2-3 years close? no, but within 10 years(probably closer to 5), I think at least two more much better solutions will become available, as it seems they are finding things faster and faster and we have many more companies working on it than we did before.

[TravisB]

It's not that simple, unfortunately. I mean, for example there was a study in 1959 (1959!) on scalp dermabrasion causing neogenesis of follicles, basically an earlier version of what Follica is attempting with their supposed treatments - that didn't mean that a dermabrasion treatment or cure was just round the corner.

Yes, follicular neogenesis caused by wounds was known since a long time, but scientists didn't know the further mechanism behind it, or how to help the hair caused by wounding grow. Now Follica seems to be cracking it (hopefully)

[bibz]

Guyz seriously, some people just don't get it, the founds of Costarelis and follica's team(PGD2, FGF9 and others in the furtur certainly..) are HUGE, we will be cured that's ****ing sure.