15 Graft in-vitro Doubling patch test 93Day's @drnigam

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  • drnigams
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 551

    #31
    He is posting his feedback on his thread on tbt,
    titled Dr.Nigam my own experience...

    Originally posted by sausage
    Where is this Tom guy right now? So he has had treatment and we are awaiting his results in time?

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    • clandestine
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2002

      #32
      We require better quality pictures for this test though, Dr Nigam

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      • didi
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1360

        #33
        Looking at pic 0 and pic 93 it looks as if HM injections only have an effect on existing hair, that is to say HM don't really create new hairs on shinny slick bald area but rather brings back to life weak hairs destined to fall out.

        Something histogen is trying to achieve.

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        • drnigams
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 551

          #34
          Originally posted by didi
          Looking at pic 0 and pic 93 it looks as if HM injections only have an effect on existing hair, that is to say HM don't really create new hairs on shinny slick bald area but rather brings back to life weak hairs destined to fall out.

          Something histogen is trying to achieve.

          Reposting clear recipient pics of 15 graft patch test day 93 result.
          I hope we can see the recipient growth of bisected follicle with hm injection support.
          RAW PICS OF RECIPIENT OF 15 GRAFT PATCH TEST OF INVITRO DOUBLING,FOR INDEPENDENT ASSESMENT

          the pics are not getting zoomed........press ctrl+ than it zoom's


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          • clandestine
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 2002

            #35
            Zooming on the page with Ctrl and + is no good whatsoever.

            You need higher quality photographs. Nothing can be determined from what you've posted.

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            • Westonci
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 251

              #36
              Heres are the high res pics





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              • gc83uk
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1339

                #37
                Thanks!

                Do we have data for singles, doubles and triples on day 0?

                Just looks like a column of zeros from the table on image 1.

                I don't see how we can conclude much without that, so I'm sure he has just forgotten to add these.

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                • gc83uk
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1339

                  #38
                  bump

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                  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 638

                    #39
                    GC can you please educate me on this? why is it necessary to know the graft breakdown since even doubles and triples after bisection are implanted as singles?

                    am i missing sth?

                    please tell me more....

                    thank you

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                    • gc83uk
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1339

                      #40
                      Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                      GC can you please educate me on this? why is it necessary to know the graft breakdown since even doubles and triples after bisection are implanted as singles?

                      am i missing sth?

                      please tell me more....

                      thank you
                      No you might not be missing anything, it might be me missing something.

                      Don't we need to know which of the 15 grafts are singles, doubles and tripples in the donor? BEFORE EXTRACTION

                      The implantation of singles that you're talking about is in regard to the recipient area right?

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                      • Hairismylife
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 383

                        #41
                        Dr.Nigam, hope you aren't fooling us.
                        Giving false hope to us is like putting salt on our wound.
                        It doesn't matter if you fail, we'll still appreciate if you keep researching.

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                        • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 638

                          #42
                          well it is kind confusion here,i am talking about implanting singles everywhere after bisection donour and recipient, i cant think of a way that for example a double can be bisected so it will ocour a double and two singles but only 4 singles,.... so lets leave graft talk and focus on hair talk cause even if someone has all the triples in the world he will end up having the same (regeneration and recipient) but in singles.
                          the only advantage will be less extractions,

                          am i right?
                          Originally posted by gc83uk
                          No you might not be missing anything, it might be me missing something.

                          Don't we need to know which of the 15 grafts are singles, doubles and tripples in the donor? BEFORE EXTRACTION

                          The implantation of singles that you're talking about is in regard to the recipient area right?

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                          • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 638

                            #43
                            gc?

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                            • gc83uk
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1339

                              #44
                              Originally posted by TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                              well it is kind confusion here,i am talking about implanting singles everywhere after bisection donour and recipient, i cant think of a way that for example a double can be bisected so it will ocour a double and two singles but only 4 singles,.... so lets leave graft talk and focus on hair talk cause even if someone has all the triples in the world he will end up having the same (regeneration and recipient) but in singles.
                              the only advantage will be less extractions,

                              am i right?
                              Not quite sure what you're saying there. But from what I understand from Dr Nigams procedure. Let's imagine there is just 1 x double graft in the donor. 1)The entire double graft is extracted Invitro.
                              2)The graft is bisected.
                              3)The lower end of the 2hair FU which was bisected is re-implanted back in the donor and a 2 hair FU regrows normally.
                              4)In the recipient a 2 hair FU also grows OR if you prefer 2 singles grow, much depending on whether the grafts are in the hair line or not.

                              OK assuming the above is correct...

                              My question comes back to: of the 15 grafts extracted from the donor, how many hairs were in each FU.

                              I'm pretty sure this data is about somewhere, if we don't have that data then I don't see how we can prove the net growth of each FU in the donor.

                              See what I mean?

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                              • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 638

                                #45
                                yes gc i see, is there any video or animation or pic of how multiple hair grafts are bisected?
                                Originally posted by gc83uk
                                Not quite sure what you're saying there. But from what I understand from Dr Nigams procedure. Let's imagine there is just 1 x double graft in the donor. 1)The entire double graft is extracted Invitro.
                                2)The graft is bisected.
                                3)The lower end of the 2hair FU which was bisected is re-implanted back in the donor and a 2 hair FU regrows normally.
                                4)In the recipient a 2 hair FU also grows OR if you prefer 2 singles grow, much depending on whether the grafts are in the hair line or not.

                                OK assuming the above is correct...

                                My question comes back to: of the 15 grafts extracted from the donor, how many hairs were in each FU.

                                I'm pretty sure this data is about somewhere, if we don't have that data then I don't see how we can prove the net growth of each FU in the donor.

                                See what I mean?

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