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  • iH8d0ugh
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 79

    #46
    Originally posted by didi
    Im gorilla man too, think many people with strong body hair have MPB..

    there is always dr Umar, he can transplant all your body hair to your scalp but it will cost you a lot of $$

    you are only 16 and theres a good chance something like hair multiplication will come up in the next 5 years...consider yourself lucky
    I have seem pictures of those body hair transplants and they look awful. I'd never do anything like that :P but yeah hopefully a good treatment comes to market soon

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    • KO1
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 805

      #47
      Originally posted by iH8d0ugh
      I guess i'll just have to wait it out until in19/20 to start fin or duta.
      Do you know if there's any correlation between having alot of body hair and losing head hair? I have hair all over my chest and stomach and getting hair on my back and basiclally over my whole body. I'd trade all of this body hair for my headhair back without any doubt. Lol.

      I feel for you man, like you said atleast i have some options available to treat it when i get a little older. To start this young knowing that there's nothing you can do to treat it must have been devestating.

      You don't need to wait till you're 20 to start fin/dut. You could probably start now and be fine, and in fact that will be MOST effective for your hair. But if you're really concerned, age 18 should be fine. So as soon as you graduate from school, your graduation present should be a year's worth of Proscar! In fact, with a typical response to finasteride, you may never need HM.

      I wish had done that.

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      • Vox
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 298

        #48
        Originally posted by didi
        Vox
        I guess when you started losing hair(early 1980s) it wasn't big deal compared to now, not saying it was easy to be that balding 16-17 yo guy but at the time people weren't obsessed with looks.
        look at it now, cameras are everywhere, smartphones, social media etc
        I think so. I admit that for my case it was rather painless. No one ever mentioned anything about it. Only a friend's dad made comments a few years ago, but he had not seen me for 25 years (he remembered me with hair, he saw me completely bald). But I can understand his surprise.

        The other "advantage" is that I never lived in the U.S.A., the U.K. or Canada. From what I read and hear, these countries are a hell-on-earth not only for bald but also for balding guys.

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        • Vox
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 298

          #49
          Originally posted by iH8d0ugh
          Do you know if there's any correlation between having alot of body hair and losing head hair?
          I see very often bald or balding men with much facial and/or body hair. It goes also in the other way around, men with much hair often have little facial hair. It seems that there is a correlation but I am not aware of any study establishing a link between the two.

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          • iH8d0ugh
            Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 79

            #50
            Originally posted by KO1
            You don't need to wait till you're 20 to start fin/dut. You could probably start now and be fine, and in fact that will be MOST effective for your hair. But if you're really concerned, age 18 should be fine. So as soon as you graduate from school, your graduation present should be a year's worth of Proscar! In fact, with a typical response to finasteride, you may never need HM.

            I wish had done that.
            Well there is no way that i could ever get a script for fin. I don't even think its possible to get dut here in sweden so i guess i'll have to wait. I'm planning on moving to the US when i'm 18/19/20 so i guess it will be easier to get it there.

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            • x4342
              Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 55

              #51
              Originally posted by Vox
              I see very often bald or balding men with much facial and/or body hair. It goes also in the other way around, men with much hair often have little facial hair. It seems that there is a correlation but I am not aware of any study establishing a link between the two.


              Yeah, there's likely a bunch of different androgen related correlations. The men on my mother's side are hairy, with thick facial hair and extensive hair loss. Not so on my father's side. I'm the only one of my brothers with hair loss and the one with the very thick facial hair. Something like prostate cancer is also likely correlated with hair loss, increased body hair etc.

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              • Vox
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 298

                #52
                Originally posted by iH8d0ugh
                Imagine how i felt when i was noticed that my hairline didn't look normal and read that hairline recesion is the early stages of balding.
                Lucky again. In my case, especially when MPB started kicking seriously in my early 20's, it was not just the hairline but aggressive hair loss in a diffuse NW7 pattern. Ouch!

                Originally posted by iH8d0ugh
                By now i have basically accepted it. There's nothing i can do about it right now.
                Indeed. Just keep an eye on it so that you can act quickly in a few years from now. You will likely never go bald in the way it happened in my generation. Plus, perhaps you will have the opportunity the completely restore your hair before you hit 30.

                Originally posted by iH8d0ugh
                I also have a headshape that really does not suit buzz/shave.
                I would hold my judgement on that one. Teens are notoriously sensitive and overreacting when aesthetics come into play. I see it in my daughter also (she is about your age).

                Originally posted by iH8d0ugh
                But yeah, sadly there's no denying that this most likely will ****up my confidence and dating in a few years when it gets more severe..
                It should not. And with the means available even this day we have this conversation, for the most part it is up to you to not let it mess with your confidence. Also, I don't know how things are in Sweden, but in continental Europe there seems to be enough tolerance (or indifference if you wish) about baldness to spare your confidence.

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  #53
                  Vox


                  I think you are right, anglo saxon countries are the worst places for bald or balding men, continental Europe isn't as bad...

                  then again Asian men don't really go bald so it must suck to be the one who is balding

                  which country you hail from?

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    #54
                    Hey guess what guys??

                    Hair loss is shit.

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                    • iH8d0ugh
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 79

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Vox
                      Lucky again. In my case, especially when MPB started kicking seriously in my early 20's, it was not just the hairline but aggressive hair loss in a diffuse NW7 pattern. Ouch!


                      Indeed. Just keep an eye on it so that you can act quickly in a few years from now. You will likely never go bald in the way it happened in my generation. Plus, perhaps you will have the opportunity the completely restore your hair before you hit 30.


                      I would hold my judgement on that one. Teens are notoriously sensitive and overreacting when aesthetics come into play. I see it in my daughter also (she is about your age).


                      It should not. And with the means available even this day we have this conversation, for the most part it is up to you to not let it mess with your confidence. Also, I don't know how things are in Sweden, but in continental Europe there seems to be enough tolerance (or indifference if you wish) about baldness to spare your confidence.
                      My headahape really does not look good with my a buzz, my skull is pretty uneven..none the less i look alot better with hair in my opinion. But yeah i should be grateful there are drugs to stop it today and hopefully we'll have better treatments in a few years. And the only people who really get shit for being bald/balding in sweden are really skinny guys, from what i have noticed atleast. if i continue to work out as much as i do right now i'm gonna look like Arnold in a few years ;P

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                      • iH8d0ugh
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 79

                        #56
                        Originally posted by UK_
                        Hey guess what guys??

                        Hair loss is shit.
                        I completely agree

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                        • 35YrsAfter
                          Doctor Representative
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1418

                          #57
                          Originally posted by thechamp
                          we need a miracle no new treatments coming any time soon we need a miracle!
                          I work at Dr. Cole's office here in Georgia near Atlanta. Dr. Cole has degrees in both chemistry and biology. His daughter has a PhD in chemical engineering. Dr. Cole is in touch with the finest minds in the world related to research and advances in the art of hair transplantation. A few days ago, I asked Dr. Cole about the claims by various doctors related to them getting 100% follicle regeneration in their patient's donor areas. He told me, the person who could actually achieve that and prove it would be a billionaire. State of the art hair restoration surgery technology as of June 2013 is enhanced by regenerative and healing products such as ACell, PRP, and ATP. ACell is an amazing product and has been approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It seems that many doctors don't believe that and put organ and follicle regeneration in the same category as time travel and teleportation. As of 2013, FUE hair transplant patients can get some follicle regeneration using ACell in their donor areas after surgery. We have seen regeneration varying from 10% up to around 70% with the average being around 49%. In hair transplant surgery, follicle regeneration offers the hope of expanding a patients donor supply. The top doctors are also blending beard hair into the recipient areas with great success. Beard hair can commonly be twice as coarse as scalp hair and twice the hair shaft diameter provides 4x the coverage. So progress is being made. Don't be fooled, when 100% follicle regeneration is available, there will be extensive documentation, results photos and the "inventor" will be an almost instant billionaire.

                          35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                          Pioneer in total follicular unit hair transplantation and microscopic dissection, focusing on transforming hair restoration surgery from cosmetically unacceptable results into aesthetically pleasing results.

                          Cole Hair Transplant
                          1070 Powers Place
                          Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                          Phone 678-566-1011
                          email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                          Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                          • garethbale
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 603

                            #58
                            Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                            I work at Dr. Cole's office here in Georgia near Atlanta. Dr. Cole has degrees in both chemistry and biology. His daughter has a PhD in chemical engineering. Dr. Cole is in touch with the finest minds in the world related to research and advances in the art of hair transplantation. A few days ago, I asked Dr. Cole about the claims by various doctors related to them getting 100% follicle regeneration in their patient's donor areas. He told me, the person who could actually achieve that and prove it would be a billionaire. State of the art hair restoration surgery technology as of June 2013 is enhanced by regenerative and healing products such as ACell, PRP, and ATP. ACell is an amazing product and has been approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It seems that many doctors don't believe that and put organ and follicle regeneration in the same category as time travel and teleportation. As of 2013, FUE hair transplant patients can get some follicle regeneration using ACell in their donor areas after surgery. We have seen regeneration varying from 10% up to around 70% with the average being around 49%. In hair transplant surgery, follicle regeneration offers the hope of expanding a patients donor supply. The top doctors are also blending beard hair into the recipient areas with great success. Beard hair can commonly be twice as coarse as scalp hair and twice the hair shaft diameter provides 4x the coverage. So progress is being made. Don't be fooled, when 100% follicle regeneration is available, there will be extensive documentation, results photos and the "inventor" will be an almost instant billionaire.

                            35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                            Pioneer in total follicular unit hair transplantation and microscopic dissection, focusing on transforming hair restoration surgery from cosmetically unacceptable results into aesthetically pleasing results.

                            Cole Hair Transplant
                            1070 Powers Place
                            Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                            Phone 678-566-1011
                            email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                            Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

                            Thank you!

                            Has Dr Cole been in touch with either Dr Gho or Dr Nigam about their work and research?

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1581

                              #59
                              Originally posted by garethbale
                              Thank you!

                              Has Dr Cole been in touch with either Dr Gho or Dr Nigam about their work and research?
                              Dr. Cole tried to contact Gho, but didn't receive an answer...which is too bad. I think this is likely because Gho's claims are not as advertised. (I believe his regeneration is somewhere around 50-60% and not 80%+ that is claimed).

                              Also, Dr. Nigam has been posting some very interesting stuff to say the least, but practically everything he is doing is illegal in the US.

                              It would be nice if Dr.Cole would get ahold of Nigam and discuss his "donor doubling" procedure...Dr. Cole has nothing to lose by just a conversation.

                              That all being said, I appreciate having Dr. Cole here in the USA, as he seems to be the only doctor here that is interested in improving hair restoration techniques and in return improving the quality of life for many.

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                              • iH8d0ugh
                                Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 79

                                #60
                                Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                                I work at Dr. Cole's office here in Georgia near Atlanta. Dr. Cole has degrees in both chemistry and biology. His daughter has a PhD in chemical engineering. Dr. Cole is in touch with the finest minds in the world related to research and advances in the art of hair transplantation. A few days ago, I asked Dr. Cole about the claims by various doctors related to them getting 100% follicle regeneration in their patient's donor areas. He told me, the person who could actually achieve that and prove it would be a billionaire. State of the art hair restoration surgery technology as of June 2013 is enhanced by regenerative and healing products such as ACell, PRP, and ATP. ACell is an amazing product and has been approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It seems that many doctors don't believe that and put organ and follicle regeneration in the same category as time travel and teleportation. As of 2013, FUE hair transplant patients can get some follicle regeneration using ACell in their donor areas after surgery. We have seen regeneration varying from 10% up to around 70% with the average being around 49%. In hair transplant surgery, follicle regeneration offers the hope of expanding a patients donor supply. The top doctors are also blending beard hair into the recipient areas with great success. Beard hair can commonly be twice as coarse as scalp hair and twice the hair shaft diameter provides 4x the coverage. So progress is being made. Don't be fooled, when 100% follicle regeneration is available, there will be extensive documentation, results photos and the "inventor" will be an almost instant billionaire.

                                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                                Pioneer in total follicular unit hair transplantation and microscopic dissection, focusing on transforming hair restoration surgery from cosmetically unacceptable results into aesthetically pleasing results.

                                Cole Hair Transplant
                                1070 Powers Place
                                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                                Phone 678-566-1011
                                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                                So basically, when we have 100% donor regeneration you can take as many grafts as you you want and still get more? So 100% donor regen. is basically "the cure"? Time to start saving..

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