Dr. Cotsarelis New Discovery that may finally cure Baldness (June 3rd, 2013)

[Assemblage23]

Nah dude I don't believe the conspiracy-to-make-more-money-story. Simply because it's implicitly based on the idea (without proof) that Merck and all other large pharma is making more money now than it would if a cure were released. That is not true: only 7% of all baldies are willing to take the currently available meds.

Whoever finds a cure is going to get 95%.

I never mentioned a conspiracy. Just said that if a cure was realistically coming up it would have a big impact on the hair loss industry. Spencer doesnt even mention it in his podcasts.

[Thinning87]

this is the only thing you wont know at this point we are only mentally masturbating. When a cure is actually coming expect it to make BIG WAVES even before a price is discussed, try to picture how Merck, Kirkland and HT clinics are gonna panic big time. None of them is panicking or making moves to plan a disparition of their buisness at this point so let me tell you no cure is coming in the near future based on that fact alone. Believe me Merck and HT clinics are the people to actually watch when they start packing their shit will be the time to imagine yourself with a full head of stable hair.

Nah dude I don't believe the conspiracy-to-make-more-money-story. Simply because it's implicitly based on the idea (without proof) that Merck and all other large pharma is making more money now than it would if a cure were released. That is not true: only 7% of all baldies are willing to take the currently available meds.

Whoever finds a cure is going to get 95%.

[Assemblage23]

only thing i want to know is: when will this come to market and how much will it cost?

this is the only thing you wont know at this point we are only mentally masturbating. When a cure is actually coming expect it to make BIG WAVES even before a price is discussed, try to picture how Merck, Kirkland and HT clinics are gonna panic big time. None of them is panicking or making moves to plan a disparition of their buisness at this point so let me tell you no cure is coming in the near future based on that fact alone. Believe me Merck and HT clinics are the people to actually watch when they start packing their shit will be the time to imagine yourself with a full head of stable hair.

[Pentarou]

Here's my guess to how Follica's two-pronged treatment will work:

1. Scalp wounding + FGF9 for regrowth
2. GPR44 blocking topical for maintenance

[burtandernie]

Its something that kind of sounds like that but I mean realistically its not going to be anything as easy as that.
I see people arguing about whether its human or mouse. The jump is huge between those so if its in mice I dont see the point in even mentioning it until you get something in humans. Hopefully someday they can grow all the cells to replicate a human scalp and test with that verses using mice. Why not use stump tailed masque or whatever that resemble people a lot better.

[young]

Am I reading this wrong, or could they then just peel off a layer, and give you a whole new head of hair?

[szn]

only thing i want to know is: when will this come to market and how much will it cost?

[Thinning87]

ha! Yeah, and the company should be chastised for even subtly implying a need for more money: bad company!!! naughty naughty company!!! Now go off and find me the cure for hair loss while I sit on my fat backside whinging and whining doing nothing.

hahahah yeah

[UK_]

Yeah but I want to stress that this is not a negative aspect, to the contrary it is a good thing. Just want to make this point, which also applies to Histogen and Replicel, because I know some in here are going to tell us it's bad as it probably means they have no money.

ha! Yeah, and the company should be chastised for even subtly implying a need for more money: bad company!!! naughty naughty company!!! Now go off and find me the cure for hair loss while I sit on my fat backside whinging and whining doing nothing.

[Thinning87]

Yeah, I get the impression these spurts of information they release every few years has more to do with gaining an extra injection of capital from investors to carry them through to their next phase. Great point.

Yeah but I want to stress that this is not a negative aspect, to the contrary it is a good thing. Just want to make this point, which also applies to Histogen and Replicel, because I know some in here are going to tell us it's bad as it probably means they have no money.

[Dazza]

Anyone figured out what the Phase IIA is or is it just bad journalism?

Is it just the peeling device or the lithium trial?

Nope, having trouble finding the exact trial there talking about.

[Pentarou]

Wasn't there a user on HS years ago called coffee or something who had some results with lithium and dermarolling?

[bigentries]

Anyone figured out what the Phase IIA is or is it just bad journalism?

Is it just the peeling device or the lithium trial?

[UK_]

Let me add to this that it makes sense to think that if they release news like this, there definitely is some kind of business development reason behind it, be it looking to raise more funds, or looking to partner up for commercialization, or both.

They originally raised plenty of VC money but it's hard to estimate how much of it is gone and how close to their original business plan they are at this point in time. For sure though, I think this may definitely be a good sign as it might be a sign that they are trying to raise awareness for their technology which means they believe they are on to something.

God I can't wait to hear again from them, although I wouldn't be surprised if we hear again from them in 2-3 years...

Yeah, I get the impression these spurts of information they release every few years has more to do with gaining an extra injection of capital from investors to carry them through to their next phase. Great point.

[Thinning87]

Follica are immensely secretive, it's very difficult to know exactly what they're up to, however I have never seen them come out and state in a news release they have shown human hair follicle regeneration, that is important to note.

Let me add to this that it makes sense to think that if they release news like this, there definitely is some kind of business development reason behind it, be it looking to raise more funds, or looking to partner up for commercialization, or both.

They originally raised plenty of VC money but it's hard to estimate how much of it is gone and how close to their original business plan they are at this point in time. For sure though, I think this may definitely be a good sign as it might be a sign that they are trying to raise awareness for their technology which means they believe they are on to something.

God I can't wait to hear again from them, although I wouldn't be surprised if we hear again from them in 2-3 years...