Dr. Cotsarelis New Discovery that may finally cure Baldness (June 3rd, 2013)

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by ar50
    Hey garethbale,

    thanks for the info. I heard about saw palmetto I should do more research about it. I dont know if you saw my hairline at my previous post but i would like to have your opinion about it.

    Yeaah man i understand i should actually be patient but i have suffered from depression since my hair loss became visible. I dont take pictures of my self and I dont have the courage to approach females. And when I read this forum it makes me happy for a few hours each day. I dont feel sad and I really like that feeling..
    Yeah I saw your picture, obviously you have noticeable thinning but I do not think you have left it too late to address it. You certainly have hair to 'work with' in terms of stabilisation and possible regrowth, and your hairline is still intact. In terms of analysing norwood levels, I really am not a great judge with diffuse thinners. I am a receder myself and have no diffuse thinning. Fortunately my hair loss has been slow.

    A DHT blocker, growth stimulant and nizoral (a shampoo which a lot of hair loss sufferers use) might be a good option. Make sure that if you do start a regimen that you are consisent with it and patient as well.

    In terms of new treatments, it is important to realise that there is a good chance that if and when they are released, they may work better on people with hair to begin with. It's only my opinion, but I think it is of real importance to try to keep what you have now.

    Try not to get too depressed by it either. It won't help you and it can make hair loss worse. I realise this is a difficult thing to deal with but obsessing over it won't help.

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  • ar50
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    Originally posted by Thinning87
    suggestion: try starting out with lower doses and slowly increase it to as much as you can tolerate it. I went straight to once a day last year, had temporary side effects, saw how much worse my hair got so got back on it not too long afterwards and have been taking it every other day - so far no side effects and seems to be working as I see the early induced shed - at some point I'll increase to as much as my body can take
    So how bad were these side effects? and how do you get lower doses? do you buy them at the pharmacy of you cut it yourself?

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  • ar50
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    Originally posted by ar50
    Hey Thinning87

    thank you for the info. I am reading a lot about the pro's and con's. In holland we have a famous doctor called Boersma who prescribed this to a lot of people, also women. It turned out that few of them became infertile. I also read a lot about people who say that the side effects are temporary. But the fear keeps me from using it. You know if the side effect was that i would lose weight, gain weight, feel dizzy of have a headache, I would do it. But my penis pretty important to me hehe. I respect your opinion brother and thanks for the help.
    Im sorry this was meant for KO1

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  • ar50
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    Hey Thinning87

    thank you for the info. I am reading a lot about the pro's and con's. In holland we have a famous doctor called Boersma who prescribed this to a lot of people, also women. It turned out that few of them became infertile. I also read a lot about people who say that the side effects are temporary. But the fear keeps me from using it. You know if the side effect was that i would lose weight, gain weight, feel dizzy of have a headache, I would do it. But my penis pretty important to me hehe. I respect your opinion brother and thanks for the help.

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  • ar50
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    Hey ar50

    Get on SOME form of DHT blocker if you can. For diffuse thinners I think they respond best to treatments. Propecia is probably the most potent but you have to decide if you want to go for it. An alternative is saw palmetto tablets which you can purchase at any pharmacy.

    Rogaine extra strength is a good growth stimulant and I think works best on diffuse thinners BUT you may shed hair first which is always a concern.

    As clandestine says, DON'T take the opinions of people (including me :-)) too seriously here when it comes to treatments like Replicel, Histogen, Aderans, Follica as we are all speculating and none of us have insider information. They are some way off though so I would advise to monitor them but do not obsess over when they will come to fruition.

    One other thing, have you tried a concealer such as caboki or toppik? For people with thin hair it can work wonders in hiding hair loss (completely hid my recession for a good while a few years back). They are very cheap and easy and convenient to apply, and they can be undetectable.

    Cheers mate and good luck!


    Hey garethbale,

    thanks for the info. I heard about saw palmetto I should do more research about it. I dont know if you saw my hairline at my previous post but i would like to have your opinion about it.

    Yeaah man i understand i should actually be patient but i have suffered from depression since my hair loss became visible. I dont take pictures of my self and I dont have the courage to approach females. And when I read this forum it makes me happy for a few hours each day. I dont feel sad and I really like that feeling..

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  • Thinning87
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    suggestion: try starting out with lower doses and slowly increase it to as much as you can tolerate it. I went straight to once a day last year, had temporary side effects, saw how much worse my hair got so got back on it not too long afterwards and have been taking it every other day - so far no side effects and seems to be working as I see the early induced shed - at some point I'll increase to as much as my body can take

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  • KO1
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    go to www.twinshairloss.com

    I can point you to numerous studies that show the incidence of side effects is pretty low, plus you can read the 10 year study that shows that finasteride is effective for a long time, and not 5 years as the idiot broscientists say.


    These medications are great when you already have a lot of hair, and if you have the typical response, you may not need any of these "Cutting edge" treatments.

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  • garethbale
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    Hey ar50

    Get on SOME form of DHT blocker if you can. For diffuse thinners I think they respond best to treatments. Propecia is probably the most potent but you have to decide if you want to go for it. An alternative is saw palmetto tablets which you can purchase at any pharmacy.

    Rogaine extra strength is a good growth stimulant and I think works best on diffuse thinners BUT you may shed hair first which is always a concern.

    As clandestine says, DON'T take the opinions of people (including me :-)) too seriously here when it comes to treatments like Replicel, Histogen, Aderans, Follica as we are all speculating and none of us have insider information. They are some way off though so I would advise to monitor them but do not obsess over when they will come to fruition.

    One other thing, have you tried a concealer such as caboki or toppik? For people with thin hair it can work wonders in hiding hair loss (completely hid my recession for a good while a few years back). They are very cheap and easy and convenient to apply, and they can be undetectable.

    Cheers mate and good luck!

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  • clandestine
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    No worries.

    Word to the wise, and you'll learn this in time, don't become too easily swayed by hair loss news. Good or bad, remain level headed.

    If it comes, it will come. And you'll know.

    Cheers.

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  • ar50
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    Hmm good points. I am very afraid that my penis will stop working
    If that happens than I should probably become a monk or stop chasing women.

    I was disappointed in histogen man that ruines my week.
    Till i read about dr cotsarelis.

    What do you think about follica.

    Keratene sounds good man i think i will research your recommendations

    Thanks bro bless you

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  • clandestine
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    Originally posted by ar50
    I wanted to use propecia
    But the side effects scared me.
    Up to you brah. Probably worth trying it and seeing how you react; not everyone gets sides.

    Originally posted by ar50
    I am thinking about Menoxidil. What i want is to keep this hair and hopefully Of the follica thing comes quick, i would use that.
    Minoxidil is a growth stimulant. Propecia is a DHT blocker. They work differently, as you can imagine, and by differing mechanism.

    Minoxidil might encourage hair growth, while Propecia might help you keep retain your hair. An anti-androgen (aa)(DHT blocker) and growth stimulant will often work in a synergistic manner.

    Originally posted by ar50
    I was rooting for Histogen but that didnt turned out to be that Great after all. What medicine would you recommend?
    Don't wait for Histogen; it's likely too far off.

    Minoxidil is fine to start with as a growth stim, as it has a lessened incidence of sides, but you must use it continually and consistently, forever really.

    I would try to get on a DHT blocker. This is more tricky, and you must use your best discretion concerning legitimacy, and sides. For this I would recommend either Propecia, RU, or Keratene.

    Again, this is my opinion.

    Originally posted by ar50
    And maybe off topic but why do the ht doctors only use the back of the head As donor area? Are the sides not good to use?
    That's a good question; I've literally no idea.

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  • ar50
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    Originally posted by clandestine
    Not many members have any medical background.

    Your questions aren't dumb, no question is. They're fairly typical, actually. Questions not asked for fear of inadequacy is dumb.

    Your hair loss really isn't that bad. Looks like you're a diffuse thinner; it's tough to discern Norwood level with diffuse thinners, as they don't have typical crown and temporal recession.

    Have you considered any treatments?

    Cheers.


    Hey man


    Thanks a lot! I dont know a lot so all the
    Info i get is welcome! I wanted to use propecia
    But the side effects scared me. I am thinking about
    Menoxidil. What i want is to keep this hair and hopefully
    Of the follica thing comes quick, i would use that.
    I was rooting for Histogen but that didnt turned out to be that
    Great after all. What medicine would you recommend?
    And maybe off topic but why do the ht doctors only use the back of the head
    As donor area? Are the sides not good to use?


    Thanks again for the info


    Ar

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  • NotBelievingIt
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    Diffuse thinners probably respond the absolute best, out of all forms of hair loss, to minoxidil and finasteride.

    But I'm still against the changing of hormones chemically and rogaine just seems like a PITA.

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  • clandestine
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    Not many members have any medical background.

    Your questions aren't dumb, no question is. They're fairly typical, actually. Questions not asked for fear of inadequacy is dumb.

    Your hair loss really isn't that bad. Looks like you're a diffuse thinner; it's tough to discern Norwood level with diffuse thinners, as they don't have typical crown and temporal recession.

    Have you considered any treatments?

    Cheers.

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  • ar50
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    Hey guys,

    Im pretty new on this forum. I followed this forum for a long time and Im impressed by all the knowledge.

    Im 22 years old and I suffer hairloss for 3/4 years now( since 3/4 years it became visible for me) It really changed my life and I dont have the courage to approach girls and I never go out.

    Now I read all this exciting news. I really need this because I am really depressed by my hair loss. I wanted to know a few things:

    Do you guys thins that Follica has already had human trails and that they are keeping it secret? And what if they already had human trails? How long do you guys think it will take them to finish the treatment?

    I posted a pic of my hairline: could someone tell me which norwood I am? and would menoxidil help me keep my hair till Dr Cotsarelis have finished his thing?

    Im sorry if I sound dumb and ignorant and my questions are stupid. I have no medical background in contrary to you guys. I really hope someone can help me with clear information. I means a lot to me.

    Thanks guys
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