Pantostin (Alfatradiol)

[Jcm800]

Cheers Dazza, I'm same as UK, ordered cheap fin already, however upon your advice I'm gonna see if my Local surgery has an in house dermatologist, thanks for the reply mate.

[Dazza]

Hi Dazza, what blood values did you have checked? I ordered my fin off ukfinasteride - it works out to about £10 a month so cant really complain - I am still contemplating taking my fin, would prefer to have a blood test done prior to popping my first pill.

I can't exactly remember what tests I got tho it was pretty much everything to do with hairloss. She was a GP/dermatologist specialist so I got the works. I get my fin stupidly cheap. I was originally going to get propecia and spend over £200 a year, now I spend under a £10.

My advice bud, take the pill with a clear head. You take it while thinking something bad is gonna happen your only gonna make it worse for you. I took the pill thinking it was just a vitamin tablet and didn't think twice about it. Not had one side at all.

Also call up your local GPs, find a GP who has a in house dermatologist. Ask for tests. Took me awhile and a few doctors tho there are good ounces out there. Also good luck with fin. You will be fine!!

[Dazza]

Hi Dazza, jeez you've got a good Dr! she got your blood's done for you? Did you ask for them, or did GP suggest them? I'm not even sure which tests id need, dont think my GP would even know either.. Last time i asked him about Fin, he looked a bit puzzled and said go for it, every drug has sides and shrugged his shoulders.

You're getting one hell of a good deal there!

Trust me, I went through about 4 doctors before I found her ( have a new doctor now tho as I have just currently bought my first place and moved to a new area ) one of my original doctors told me I was fine and I should eat more melon. He didn't last long. I called up all the local GP practices and asked if they had a in house dermatologist. Finally found one, signed up and booked in with her

She literally did everything. She understood and suggested we rule out everything first that could be making my hair fall out. We tested everything from thyroids to iron. The amount of blood they pumped out was crazy. Got the results back and she confirmed it was MPB.

Here's the awesome bit, she went out of her way you get me generic fin. She suggested it. Her advice taking the pill was, everybody's body is different. Do not go into taking this treatment with a mindset of "I'm going to get side" as I'd be doing myself more harm then good. Been on fin for a year now, no sides at all.

My advice find a new GP with a in house dermatologist. Make them work for you. Don't settle for there idleness.

[UK_]

never heard this and i have been to afew doctors. Cutting the pill into quarters is extremely easy. my pill cutter comes with a sealed box where i can store my cut pills (bought from Lloyds Pharmacy).

Question are you guys getting your Fin online? if so how come? i went to my GP told her my problem, got all the necessary blood work and then was proscribed fin. my GP even went our her way to get me the generic stuff. i get 3 packs (x28pills in a pack) lasts me just under a year (cut into quarters) and cost me £7.49 for the 3packs from Lloyds pharmacy.

Hi Dazza, what blood values did you have checked? I ordered my fin off ukfinasteride - it works out to about £10 a month so cant really complain - I am still contemplating taking my fin, would prefer to have a blood test done prior to popping my first pill.

[Dan26]

no way this can come close to fin...I wish

[Jcm800]

never heard this and i have been to afew doctors. Cutting the pill into quarters is extremely easy. my pill cutter comes with a sealed box where i can store my cut pills (bought from Lloyds Pharmacy).

Question are you guys getting your Fin online? if so how come? i went to my GP told her my problem, got all the necessary blood work and then was proscribed fin. my GP even went our her way to get me the generic stuff. i get 3 packs (x28pills in a pack) lasts me just under a year (cut into quarters) and cost me £7.49 for the 3packs from Lloyds pharmacy.

Hi Dazza, jeez you've got a good Dr! she got your blood's done for you? Did you ask for them, or did GP suggest them? I'm not even sure which tests id need, dont think my GP would even know either.. Last time i asked him about Fin, he looked a bit puzzled and said go for it, every drug has sides and shrugged his shoulders.

You're getting one hell of a good deal there!

[Dees Dab]

I have been using Pantostin for a month. I found several studies about 17a-estradiol and none of them had great results. This is not a replacement for FIN. I would say that it will have some effect, but not strong. It has given no sides so its worth trying. I got mine from superhumangear and it was legit.

Young, are you planning any blood tests to check dht , t , etc levels?

Thanks Des for bringin this up. Keratine or Pantostin or what's around next month? I'm so confused.

[clandestine]

PS THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO REORGANIZE THE FREAKING FORUM IN A WAY THAT ALL INFO IS STORED IN DETAIL AND IS READILY ACCESSIBLE. WHERE ARE THE MODS ON THIS? THE FORUM NEEDS TO BE SO THAT ALL USEFUL LITERATURE IS CONSERVED FOR THOSE WHO COME IN LATER AND WANT TO LEARN. IT'S THE WILD WEST RIGHT NOW!

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[Jcm800]

Just get a decent pill cutter an you'll be fine - have you placed an order from UKFIN?

Cheers. No haven't yet. Bit reluctant to spend £70 initially on a trial run, still chewing it over. Will you start this week?

[UK_]

Don't mean to keep harping on about this but being as you are ordering from the same place as I would be UK, can you me whether it's easy to cut Finpecia into quarters dude? I was advised by the salesperson that it isnt as the pill disintegrates? Cheers.

Just get a decent pill cutter an you'll be fine - have you placed an order from UKFIN?

[Thinning87]

How do we not know about this? It's been available for many years in Germany!

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Alfatradiol is a 5α-reductase inhibitor used topically for the treatment of androgenic alopecia (hair loss) in men and women.

A clinical study performed in Germany seemed to reveal that Alfatradiol may perform well at slowing down or stopping the progression of hair loss whereas minoxidil proved to increase hair density and overall hair shaft thickness.

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For those that can NOT tolerate Finasteride, they should definitely try this Pantostin! Due to its mechanism of action...it is most probably as effective as Finasteride...

Furthermore, apart from a slight itching, NO adverse effect has been reported with this drug!!!

Nice find, and welcome back!

PS THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO REORGANIZE THE FREAKING FORUM IN A WAY THAT ALL INFO IS STORED IN DETAIL AND IS READILY ACCESSIBLE. WHERE ARE THE MODS ON THIS? THE FORUM NEEDS TO BE SO THAT ALL USEFUL LITERATURE IS CONSERVED FOR THOSE WHO COME IN LATER AND WANT TO LEARN. IT'S THE WILD WEST RIGHT NOW!

[youngin]

I have been using Pantostin for a month. I found several studies about 17a-estradiol and none of them had great results. This is not a replacement for FIN. I would say that it will have some effect, but not strong. It has given no sides so its worth trying. I got mine from superhumangear and it was legit.

[Dazza]

Don't mean to keep harping on about this but being as you are ordering from the same place as I would be UK, can you me whether it's easy to cut Finpecia into quarters dude? I was advised by the salesperson that it isnt as the pill disintegrates? Cheers.

never heard this and i have been to afew doctors. Cutting the pill into quarters is extremely easy. my pill cutter comes with a sealed box where i can store my cut pills (bought from Lloyds Pharmacy).

Question are you guys getting your Fin online? if so how come? i went to my GP told her my problem, got all the necessary blood work and then was proscribed fin. my GP even went our her way to get me the generic stuff. i get 3 packs (x28pills in a pack) lasts me just under a year (cut into quarters) and cost me £7.49 for the 3packs from Lloyds pharmacy.

[Jcm800]

I know... I ordered my Fin and it arrived but dont know if I can bring myself to take it.

Don't mean to keep harping on about this but being as you are ordering from the same place as I would be UK, can you me whether it's easy to cut Finpecia into quarters dude? I was advised by the salesperson that it isnt as the pill disintegrates? Cheers.

[JulioGP]

There are several alternative treatments that are potential. The Kératene is one of them. If work exactly as proposed, goodbye Finasteride. Besides being a focused product for baldness rather than prostate, is not an inhibitor of 5AR but a retarder.

Expect this Hystogen reach the market is to have the same perspective expected to end hunger on the planet.

I see only one advantage of Fina front of these other 5AR inhibitors. Everyone already knows which side to expect and it is only a matter of time before they happen (which can occur months or years), the rest of the mechanism of action is the same, inhibit 5AR. In this case I see no difference in using topical finasteride or topical Pantostin. The effect is the same.

What makes the difference in any of these applications is the vehicle to carry the substance into the skin depending on the amount and may also have systemic absorption and bring about the same effects.