Dr Nigam, my own experience

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  • mari0s
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 64

    already link it two pages ago, msg 1139

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    • dipship31
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 6

      The hair density in the left temporal area (receiving cells and growth factors only) showed a quick increase (96% compared to day 0) at week 3 post-injection; 3-6 weeks reaching a plateau; 6-8 weeks further increasing to reach 114% at week 8 post-injection (FIG. 6, solid line). The hair density in the right temporal area (receiving the mixture of cells and growth factors and hyaluronic acid gel) gradually increased by 58% at week 3, 86% at week 6, and 111% at week 8 post-injection (FIG. 6, dotted line).

      whoa

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        Originally posted by mari0s
        The patent show a +114% of regrowth, with a hair density passing from 100 to over 200 hair for cm2 (the average density in a scalp not affected from aga).
        Of course there could be other reasons to not be doing anything, maybe the majority of new hair were vellus or could be related to the fact that Armani was force to resign is licence due to unethical reasons, who knows
        Originally posted by mari0s
        Tom just of curiosity how many injections did you take? I was reading on this patent
        http://www.google.com/patents/US20110305671 that in their protocol the made until 100 injection for cm2!! (i was so naive to think it would be at max 1 for cm2)

        assuming 10 injections for cm2 and a scalp of 80cm2 we talk of 800 injections and more, to be onest the numbers is quite scared.

        "In one aspect of the invention, the number of injections is 5 to 100 injections per square centimeter of the scalp, optionally 10 to 50 injections per square centimeter. In another aspect, 10 or 15 injections per square centimeter are performed. In another aspect of the invention, up to 50 or 60 injections per square centimeter are performed"
        Why is this a patent?

        They obviously were able to get full density back for a patient... so now what, they need clinical trials to bring it to market? Or not?

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          Some info on one of the doctors from the published patent:

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          • sausage
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1063

            Was this Armani guy.......only able to get temples to grow? What about the rest of the head?

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            • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 638

              it doesnt make sense not to work behind temples it works everywhere there is hair :


              WE NEED INFO ON THIS NOW
              Originally posted by sausage
              Was this Armani guy.......only able to get temples to grow? What about the rest of the head?

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              • sausage
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1063

                All the patenting stuff happend in 2011...I don't know if it did get a patent.......what has happend since?

                This company just offer hair transplants if you go on their website.

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                • greatjob!
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 909

                  Isn't this the same Armani that was performing very aggressive strip hair transplants on very young guys exhausting their donor with a NW 0 hairline, then he switched to FUE and got terrible yield and results? I don't even think he performs transplants himself anymore he just created some sort of hair transplant franchise company. He has about as much credibility with me as Bosley, I would not put too much stock in this or get my hopes up,

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                  • idontwant2bebalding
                    Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 48

                    Originally posted by dipship31
                    The hair density in the left temporal area (receiving cells and growth factors only) showed a quick increase (96% compared to day 0) at week 3 post-injection; 3-6 weeks reaching a plateau; 6-8 weeks further increasing to reach 114% at week 8 post-injection (FIG. 6, solid line). The hair density in the right temporal area (receiving the mixture of cells and growth factors and hyaluronic acid gel) gradually increased by 58% at week 3, 86% at week 6, and 111% at week 8 post-injection (FIG. 6, dotted line).

                    whoa
                    Is this for cancer prevention?

                    http://www.nature.com/news/simple-mo...cancer-1.13236
                    The researchers suspected that the long HA molecules formed a tight cage around cells, preventing tumour cells from replicating unchecked and essentially nipping 'pre-cancers' in the bud. In tissue-culture experiments, the cells of naked mole rats could be made cancerous by blocking the gene that encodes HA or by increasing levels of a protein that recycles the sugar. Those cells, when implanted under the skin of mice, formed tumours easily.

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      Originally posted by tom vercetti
                      @Arashi, yes for sure, I will post macro pics as you want no problem. But result is the same than before.
                      So, Tom, any time to post the pics ? Would be much appreciated !

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                      • bananana
                        Inactive
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 524

                        Ok, this is it.

                        If Boldy and Tom's experiment goes well, I'm the next forum member heading there.

                        I believed in Nigam since the beginning, and frankly, I'm tired from all these experiments in DYI arrangement.

                        Currently I'm on MSM/VIT C + dermaroller + divine herbal oil.
                        I've seen stabilisation over the last 2 years, BUT NO REGROWTH.

                        I'm thinking of just trying minox + roller but that is it.

                        I'm NW 3V diffuse or something similar, but I mask it to NW1.
                        My dad is NW 5A, I'm probably headed there.

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                        • Axel
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 45

                          There's huge expectation with Dr Nigam.. I just hope he hires the photographer who did the pics of the dermarroller study since it was done in Mumbai as well!

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            Originally posted by Axel
                            There's huge expectation with Dr Nigam.. I just hope he hires the photoshop artist who did the pics of the dermarroller study since it was done in Mumbai as well!
                            Fixed for comedic value.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              Originally posted by bananana
                              Ok, this is it.

                              If Boldy and Tom's experiment goes well, I'm the next forum member heading there.

                              I believed in Nigam since the beginning, and frankly, I'm tired from all these experiments in DYI arrangement.

                              Currently I'm on MSM/VIT C + dermaroller + divine herbal oil.
                              I've seen stabilisation over the last 2 years, BUT NO REGROWTH.

                              I'm thinking of just trying minox + roller but that is it.

                              I'm NW 3V diffuse or something similar, but I mask it to NW1.
                              My dad is NW 5A, I'm probably headed there.
                              You did follow everything from the beginning ? I think it's important to remember:

                              1) When Dr Nigams came to this board, he posted photoshopped patient results on his site. He later said it was his webdesigner who went rogue and did this on his own. http://postimg.org/image/ju8l872sn/ and this one: http://postimg.org/image/eo3qhea5x/
                              2) When Dr Nigams got confronted by the large amount of complaints regarding his weight clinic he lied about his clinic being his wife's (or he lied on Indian television when he claimed it was his)
                              3) Dr Nigams once posted a patient photo showing 3 months time between pre and postop, where patient hairlength was about 6 cm difference (hair grows 1 cm/month)
                              4) Dr Nigams once posted a series of patient photo's with post-op dates in the future
                              5) Dr Nigams once posted patient photo's from another doctor
                              6) It turned out he's probably not a real doctor
                              7) Patients who can 'proof' his theories disappear into nowhere (OBI and NeverSayNever)
                              8) Boldy, who's going to lead his cell growth experiments is just a hobbyist. I think I read he didnt even follow an official study for it (no bio chem study). He seems to be knowledgeable though. But a hobbyist.
                              9) There's a growing amount of complaints on Indian websites, stating his therapies don't work. According to Nigams this are his competitors
                              10) A forum member called some well known doctors in India. They all said they thought Nigams was a fr**d.
                              11) Nigams once claimed he was working with Dr Lauster. When forum members contacted Lausters' lab, they claimed they didn't work together at all

                              Of course this does NOT mean that it might not work. Boldy seems to be knowledgeable and who knows, maybe he can combine research results into something that works. But please, be careful here ... A lot of stuff in the past, of which I summed some up, didn't 'add up' the least.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Originally posted by Arashi
                                You did follow everything from the beginning ? I think it's important to remember:

                                1) When Dr Nigams came to this board, he posted photoshopped patient results on his site. He later said it was his webdesigner who went rogue and did this on his own. http://postimg.org/image/ju8l872sn/ and this one: http://postimg.org/image/eo3qhea5x/
                                2) When Dr Nigams got confronted by the large amount of complaints regarding his weight clinic he lied about his clinic being his wife (or he lied on Indian television when he claimed it was his)
                                3) Dr Nigams once posted a patient photo showing 3 months time between pre and postop, where patient hairlength was about 6 cm difference (hair grows 1 cm/month)
                                4) Dr Nigams once posted a series of patient photo's with post-op dates in the future
                                5) Dr Nigams once posted patient photo's from another doctor
                                6) It turned out he's probably not a real doctor
                                7) Patients who can 'proof' his theories disappear into nowhere (OBI and NeverSayNever)
                                8) Boldy, who's going to lead his cell growth experiments is just a hobbyist. I think I read he didnt even follow an official study for it (no bio chem study). He seems to be knowledgeable though. But a hobbyist.
                                9) There's a growing amount of complaints on Indian websites, stating his therapies don't work. According to Nigams this are his competitors
                                10) A forum member called some well known doctors in India. They all said they thought Nigams was a fr**d.
                                11) Nigams once claimed he was working with Dr Lauster. When forum members contacted Lausters' lab, they claimed they didn't work together at all

                                Of course this does NOT mean that it might not work. Boldy seems to be knowledgeable and who knows, maybe he can combine research results into something that works. But please, be careful here ... A lot of stuff in the past, of which I summed some up, didn't 'add up' the least.
                                All facts.

                                Also way too early to get hyped up about Dr. Nigam. Plus all his photograhs released to date have been very suspect.

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