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  • 25 going on 65
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1476

    Originally posted by Arashi
    It's possible that it's just the baldies that are more depressed than general forum users (cause really, you don't see people acting like KO1 or Ironman on other forums but here you see it quite a lot). But then again, you see them a lot in the FInasteride threads. I'm CONVINCED Ironman is also on Fin. Never heard him talk about it but I'm just sure of it. It's just a side effect of Fin.
    Depression is a possible fin side and can cause angry behavior in some people. But from what we know it is not common, certainly not as common as depression caused/agitated by hair loss (especially premature hair loss).

    The fin/dut threads do get nasty sometimes but you will notice it comes from non-users as well....tbh I think much of this started from the internet hype about fin that started a few years ago. Hair loss discussion in radio/books/forums going back to the 90s was nothing like this re: fin. Many guys took the drug and reported positive results, almost no one mentioned sides let alone persistent ones or "fin rage." And guys who chose not to take the drug were also acting more normal, for them it was just a judgment call and not part of a crusade against the evil Merck.
    Then stuff like propeciahelp started popping up, and out of nowhere every other guy who tries fin for a week has brain fog/ED/dark circles/etc. If 90+% of these guys tried the drug before the internet hysteria started a few years back, they would have just gone on with their lives and not given it a second thought. But when you are freaked out about negative effects you can not only imagine you have them, your body can actually manifest them

    This drug is not new or mysterious, we have been studying 5-ar deficiency since the 70s. I srsly think all the hype will die down again in a few years.

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    • KO1
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 805

      I thought Arashi didn't want to discuss finasteride on here. But being a pathological troll, he brings it up again and tries to mock me as "angry". I think he secretly likes me.

      The reality is, all empirical evidence puts the incidence of sides at around 5% of users. Morons like Arashi and did and bibz will whine on and on about this, but you should know better than to take medical advice from angry bald men with limp dicks.

      They NEVER present any evidence that sides are higher than what I mentioned, (Apart from a hairsite poll LMAO). That is because no such evidence exists. There are double-blind placebo controlled studies, multiyear studies done by independent organizations that firmly back my view of finasteride's safety and efficacy. I've even posted side effect incidence on this thread, the placebo group is very similar to the treatment group. That's why placebo controlled studies are necessary.



      FYI - I don't take fin, I take dut 1.0 mg daily. No problems with erections. And am happy to prove it too. Go on www.wikileaks.com.

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      • KO1
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 805

        Originally posted by 25 going on 65
        Depression is a possible fin side and can cause angry behavior in some people. But from what we know it is not common, certainly not as common as depression caused/agitated by hair loss (especially premature hair loss).

        The fin/dut threads do get nasty sometimes but you will notice it comes from non-users as well....tbh I think much of this started from the internet hype about fin that started a few years ago. Hair loss discussion in radio/books/forums going back to the 90s was nothing like this re: fin. Many guys took the drug and reported positive results, almost no one mentioned sides let alone persistent ones or "fin rage." And guys who chose not to take the drug were also acting more normal, for them it was just a judgment call and not part of a crusade against the evil Merck.
        Then stuff like propeciahelp started popping up, and out of nowhere every other guy who tries fin for a week has brain fog/ED/dark circles/etc. If 90+% of these guys tried the drug before the internet hysteria started a few years back, they would have just gone on with their lives and not given it a second thought. But when you are freaked out about negative effects you can not only imagine you have them, your body can actually manifest them

        This drug is not new or mysterious, we have been studying 5-ar deficiency since the 70s. I srsly think all the hype will die down again in a few years.
        Some of the people that are the most vehement opponents of finasteride have never actually used it themselves. It's amusing.

        Also guess what else causes depression. Hair loss! Every time you look in the mirror, your hair will get thinner and thinner...

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        • clandestine
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 2002

          You guys are tiresome. This conversation is tiresome.

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            Originally posted by KO1
            I thought Arashi didn't want to discuss finasteride on here. But being a pathological troll, he brings it up again and tries to mock me as "angry". I think he secretly likes me.

            The reality is, all empirical evidence puts the incidence of sides at around 5% of users. Morons like Arashi and did and bibz will whine on and on about this, but you should know better than to take medical advice from angry bald men with limp dicks.

            They NEVER present any evidence that sides are higher than what I mentioned, (Apart from a hairsite poll LMAO). That is because no such evidence exists. There are double-blind placebo controlled studies, multiyear studies done by independent organizations that firmly back my view of finasteride's safety and efficacy. I've even posted side effect incidence on this thread, the placebo group is very similar to the treatment group. That's why placebo controlled studies are necessary.



            FYI - I don't take fin, I take dut 1.0 mg daily. No problems with erections. And am happy to prove it too. Go on www.wikileaks.com.
            Just count the number of insults in your posts. And this is probably the 'nicest' post you've written, some of the other insults you've made in your previous post are just extreme deviant behaviour. You think it's normal. It's not. And I'm convinced it's the chemicals people like you and Ironman are using, imbalancing your homones and emotions.

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              Arashi shut the ***** up. KO too.

              Go make a thread where you can argue amongst yourselves. You're cluttering Nigams thread.

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              • KO1
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 805

                Hey...he started it.

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                • clandestine
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2002

                  Ok great, well stop it now.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    Originally posted by KO1
                    Hey...he started it.
                    How old are you ?

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                    • clandestine
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 2002

                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      How old are you ?
                      ***** off. Listen.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        Originally posted by clandestine
                        ***** off. Listen.
                        What meds are you on ? Do you talk to your dog like this ? Man, really, some people on these forums ... Angry, depressed 'internet heroes'... Would love to have you guys tell me this stuff in my face.

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                        • tom vercetti
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 129

                          please guys.. This case is important.. How do you want someone read carefully this topic if you are speaking about propecia and women for few pages ?

                          Thanks for your understanding

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                          • veca
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 219

                            Hey Tom,
                            how are you? Any news? Photos?

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                            • tom vercetti
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 129

                              Hi veca, I'm fine, no one has seen i get an hairtransplant as its well behind my hair and I can still make fashion haircut and here in south france sun is perfect so.. what else ? and how ur doing ?

                              The scabs at recipient are 90% gone but with hair for most area, so i will need to wait to see the regrowth in next few weeks. I dont remember how many times it tooks with my previous one..

                              I took some pics and sended to dr nigam this week and i will take more by next week.

                              I'm waiting for his 3D culture and then I come back india to get high resolution pictures of my recipient (hoppefully we will see the density coming) and shaved donor.

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                              • bibz
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 102

                                Sa ta couté combien en tout financierement??

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