Dr Nigam, my own experience

[KO1]

If he listened to Arashi, he'd shaved his hair and stopped worrying about it. He'd go to the gym 3-4x a week, which would improve his body and mental health. He'd try to get the best out of himself and would try to become attractive via other ways than his hair, for example improving features in his face that generally are considered attractive by women.

If he listened to you, he'd have a chance of getting a limp dick and become as negative/depressed and unsuccesful with women as you are.

Because it is a biased sample. Get that through your thick skull. All independent studies put the incidence of sides at 5%. You don't understand statistics, you don't understand biology, you're a self-hating loser who wants another poster to suffer, and you give medical advice?

If you believe hair loss is addressed by "shave your head and work out", then why are you here?

Shaving your head and working out will not make him happy. The stupidest part of your post is "he's a lost cause". Not true! The stupidest opinion is that "nothing can be done". There are effective medications available but we have to listen to self-hating dumbf**ks like yourself.

Finasteride does not cause a limp dick. It is not my problem you have one, if you cannot satisfy your gf (I may assume too much) then send her over.

[StinkySmurf]

Just take the medications, don't listen to stupid advice. Even researchers like Cotsarelis and Washenik would likely tell you the very same.

Washenik talks about being a Rogaine user in interviews.

[KO1]

Washenik talks about being a Rogaine user in interviews.

^Yeah Washenik takes fin and minox and is a big evangelist for attacking hair loss with medications as soon as possible. He also has a PhD in Cell Bio focused on hormone metabolism, but didi and Arashi know better that you shouldn't take meds that "mess with your male hormones".

[hellouser]

Finasteride does not cause a limp dick.

Total *****ing bullshit.

[KO1]

Uh no it's true.

5% incidence of side effects, most of which are "low libido". But who needs evidence when you have broscience?

There are 6 month studies, 2 yr studies, probably 5 year studies, and definitely a 10 year study (which I posted) that firmly maintain its efficacy and safety.

I'd love to see evidence that the incidence of ED is any greater than 5%. I don't expect a response. Most of the sides reported are about libido, so ED is easily a small portion of the pop. that gets sides.

[hellouser]

Uh no it's true.

5% incidence of side effects, most of which are "low libido". But who needs evidence when you have broscience?

http://www.pfsfoundation.org/

Way to negate all the men that have to endure Finasteride's side effects. That's pretty ******** arrogant.

[KO1]

Way to negate the tremendous amount of data that support finasteride and the many (vast majority) men who have benefited from it.


That's pretty ********* arrogant.

I'd love to hear an answer for the bolded part.

[Arashi]

Because it is a biased sample. Get that through your thick skull. All independent studies put the incidence of sides at 5%. You don't understand statistics, you don't understand biology, you're a self-hating loser who wants another poster to suffer, and you give medical advice?

If you believe hair loss is addressed by "shave your head and work out", then why are you here?

Shaving your head and working out will not make him happy. The stupidest part of your post is "he's a lost cause". Not true! The stupidest opinion is that "nothing can be done". There are effective medications available but we have to listen to self-hating dumbf**ks like yourself.

Finasteride does not cause a limp dick. It is not my problem you have one, if you cannot satisfy your gf (I may assume too much) then send her over.

The way you're behaving on these forums, attacking people in an extremely childish and rude manner, show clearly you have some very big personal issues. I don't know if they're caused by Fin, but it's seems you're extremely frustrated and depressed. Tell all people here having (had) sexual sides with Fin that they're 'just unlucky to fall into that 5%' group of yours. Enjoy taking that poison on a daily basis, while I'll stay far far away from it.

[KO1]

Here is erection data for Dutasteride. From a double blind, placebo controlled trial.


Sexual Function Inventory: Shifts From Baseline to Month 10 - Erection
[units: Participants]

Dutasteride Placebo
Number of Participants Analyzed
[units: participants]
73 75


No Problem shift to No Problem 54 54
No Problem shift to Very Small Problem 6 5
No Problem shift to Small Problem 3 0
No Problem shift to Medium Problem 0 1
No Problem shift to Big Problem 0 0
Very Small Problem shift to No Problem 2 2
Very Small Problem shift to Very Small Problem 3 4
Very Small Problem shift to Small Problem 0 0
Very Small Problem shift to Medium Problem 0 0
Very Small Problem shift to Big Problem 0 0
Small Problem shift to No Problem 3 2
Small Problem shift to Very Small Problem 0 2
Small Problem shift to Small Problem 1 2
Small Problem shift to Medium Problem 0 1
Small Problem shift to Big Problem 0 0
Medium Problem shift to No Problem 0 1
Medium Problem shift to Very Small Problem 0 0
Medium Problem shift to Small Problem 0 0
Medium Problem shift to Medium Problem 0 0
Medium Problem shift to Big Problem 0 0
Big Problem shift to No Problem 0 0
Big Problem shift to Very Small Problem 0 0
Big Problem shift to Small Problem 0 0
Big Problem shift to Medium Problem 0 0
Big Problem shift to Big Problem 0 0


EDIT: I spent some time formatting this table, but sadly it looks like the software doesnt take it and just squishes together the text.

[KO1]

The way you're behaving on these forums, attacking people in an extremely childish and rude manner, show clearly you have some very big personal issues. I don't know if they're caused by Fin, but it's seems you're extremely frustrated and depressed. Tell all people here having (had) sexual sides with Fin that they're 'just unlucky to fall into that 5%' group of yours. Enjoy taking that poison on a daily basis, while I'll stay far far away from it.

I'm being rude because I'm speaking the truth, and you seem to have a problem with that. I'm sorry you suffer from whatever sides you get, but making others suffer just because you like company is really really sad.

[Arashi]

I'm being rude because I'm speaking the truth

You're even sicker than IronMan. Seriously, what's wrong with you people ? Don't get yourself so hyped up, this is just a forum. I feel sorry for people in real life having to deal with people like you on a dialy basis.

[KO1]

Instead of calling me sick or other ad hominem attacks. Why don't you post some evidence that these drugs cause sides greater than the number I cited? Cat got your tongue?

[Arashi]

Instead of calling me sick or other ad hominem attacks. Why don't you post some evidence that these drugs cause sides greater than the number I cited? Cat got your tongue?

Yeah I'd call anyone reacting like you do here, in an extremely rude manner, sick. You'd probably disagree and think it's normal. But it's not. Good luck with your daily dosis of poison.

[KO1]

I repeat, what's stopping you from posting evidence of finasteride's side effects? Do show evidence that ED occurs in greater than 5% of men taking it along with the placebo group's results.


You can't, because no such evidence exists, and all you have left is to call me silly names. You are pathetic. You don't grasp statistics, you don't grasp biology, you haven't looked at empirical datea, you know little or nothing about the topic, and yet you give medical advice. Dumbass.

[Arashi]

I repeat, what's stopping you from posting evidence of finasteride's side effects? Do show evidence that ED occurs in greater than 5% of men taking it along with the placebo group's results.


You can't, because no such evidence exists, and all you have left is to call me silly names. You are pathetic. You don't grasp statistics, you don't grasp biology, you haven't looked at empirical datea, you know little or nothing about the topic, and yet you give medical advice. Dumbass.

Yeah, I should probably have paid more attention at university. Still wonder why those people ever gave me my degree, I'm clearly pretty stupid for thinking that (way) more than 5% of the people have sexual sides. And that poll on hairsite where more than 30% of the people reported sexual sides, nah, that's just because it's not representative and mainly people with sexual sides participated. Man I wish I was as smart as you ... You must be very succesful in life. That attitude of yours surely must get you a lot of respect