Dr Nigam, my own experience

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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    Hehe you're sure setting your own bar high Dr Nigams But even if you'd get 'only' 80% regeneration, I'm sure you'd have the whole world flying into India.

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    • drnigams
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 551

      Arashi,
      somewhere you said..after your cosmetic surgeries..you are being approached by our other half...you got to give me a big party..next year..when you get your ROYAL CROWN...
      Doubling is just an extension of ht...HM is the real challenge...

      Originally posted by Arashi
      Hehe you're sure setting your own bar high Dr Nigams But even if you'd get 'only' 80% regeneration, I'm sure you'd have the whole world flying into India.

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        Originally posted by drnigams
        Doubling is just an extension of ht...HM is the real challenge...
        But why would we want HM when doubling already brings us unlimited hair ?

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        • drnigams
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 551

          HM will be very cost effective,less painful, specially for an nw7,who will need bigger number of hair,hm can avoid multiple visits for nw7...
          i do not know..but i meet patients who are scared of ht...

          Originally posted by Arashi
          But why would we want HM when doubling already brings us unlimited hair ?

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          • bananana
            Inactive
            • Feb 2012
            • 524

            Originally posted by drnigams
            HM will be very cost effective,less painful, specially for an nw7,who will need bigger number of hair,hm can avoid multiple visits for nw7...
            i do not know..but i meet patients who are scared of ht...
            Dr Nigam, you're completely right, HM is the way to go. Especially for the reasons you mentioned. I'm looking forward to seeing results of your improved technique...

            I'm posting less on the forum these days, cause I can't read all that pessimistic garbage thats flooding the place. While we have every reason to be happy because of all the progress done lately, some people just refuse to.
            Oh well...

            Anyways, the best of luck to you with future improvements.

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            • ccmethinning
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 317

              One thing I do love about you Dr. Nigam, even if I don't yet fully believe in the legitimacy of your procedure, is your ability to relate to hair loss sufferers. Most hair transplant doctors, and hair scientists especially, are painfully out of touch with the concerns that hair loss sufferers face. You seem to know exactly what hair loss sufferers want, and how to explain things to them.

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              • KO1
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 805

                Dr Nigam, I am curious about your plans on expanding the donor regeneration technique to multiple clinics, why do that if the HM procedure offers more promise? Perhaps with combination of DP cell culture and HM, people will fly from all over the world to get treated...

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                • drnigams
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 551

                  Today I recieved 3 to 4 macro pics from tom... they are poor quality pics... just posting to have an idea about healing,
                  even in these low quality pictures sent by TOM you can see donor regeneration on 8th day

                  This is TOM's statement on Skype "Both recipient and donor healing is amazing and I can see donor and recipient on day 8 in videoscopic micro pictures"

                  He will be sending me video microscopic and macro pics , of better quality in next 2/3 days . . He will take two or three days of training to click proper pics and than. I think better pictures will come.

                  I can give you approximate count of the procedures on tom as below-

                  1. Total drills in the 4 shaved buns 1475
                  2. Singles 762 Doubles 326 Triples 31 Total successful Extraction 1119
                  3. 175 grafts sent for isolating and sourcing progenitor stem cells and multiplied stem cell to be injected (These cells used for stem cell cannot be used for donor and recipient regeneration count as intact send to the lab for epidermal and mesenchymal stem cells)
                  4. 75 grafts sent for 2D DP culture which will be injected in 6 weeks from day 0 which cannot be used for donor and recipient re generation .
                  5. 106 grafts used for DP cell isolation and re implanted back at the donor from where they were extracted.
                  6. Recipient shows 1044 implantation mostly singles few doubles
                  7. Most of the lower half of the grafts part hair bulb was implanted as the donor except approx 200 lower half injected most of the upper half of the follicle implanted approx 75 grafts were drilled but grafts not extracted from these 75 drills at donor.


                  Recipient







                  Donor A strip










                  Donor A strip

                  I am posting 8th day pics sent by tom which are not clear just to observe the quick and neat healing and observe early regeneration at the donor , hopefully he will give better pictures in next 2-3 days including video scope pictures.







                  Last edited by Winston; 06-04-2013, 09:40 AM. Reason: Please refer to our forum policies

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                  • TO YOUNG TO RETIRE
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 638

                    very nice Dr,

                    Dr Nigam how many times can you use the donor with regeneration? unlimitted? what is the ideally time gap between operations ?

                    i think that if you can do sessions of 4000 grafts to 8000 grafts via doubling you are unique

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                    • garethbale
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 603

                      Originally posted by drnigams

                      This is TOM's statement on Skype "Both recipient and donor healing is amazing and I can see donor and recipient on day 8 in videoscopic micro pictures"
                      Thank you Dr Nigam

                      However I think it will be important to have independent verification directly from Tom to users of this forum

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                      • tom vercetti
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 129

                        Well, first i'm sorry for the pictures, because i spend much of times and finally result is only few pics are OK for dr nigam. I need to improve, but arashi should be happy as the donor should be shave again when I come back to double the density. So, professional photographer will do his job.

                        For the healing it's really impressive, it's about at least half the time it was with my previous hair transplant.. it's really amazing, maybe it's the combo: PRP / ECM ? we could call that the dr nigam grand mother secret lol

                        Do you guys have any idea how to improve the hair count per graft ? When I get my previous Fue i get tons of 3hairs per graft and few of 4. I read for exemple that HASCI can only get about 1,5 (acording to arashi the specialist), why a low number like that compare to normal fue ?

                        Anyway, with the DP culture and growh factor I hope it could also give some hair to previous graft. Let's see..

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                        • clandestine
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2002

                          Cheers Tom.

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                          • tom vercetti
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 129

                            thanks for all of you to support me. No one know i did it.. Only you my "followers", so really I appreciated to read all your message here. I hope have good result as you will have

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              Originally posted by tom vercetti
                              Do you guys have any idea how to improve the hair count per graft ? When I get my previous Fue i get tons of 3hairs per graft and few of 4. I read for exemple that HASCI can only get about 1,5 (acording to arashi the specialist), why a low number like that compare to normal fue ?
                              I'm by no means a specialist here Tom, but it seems from the 50 grafts test HASCI did (they did 2) that they have difficulties extracting 3 hair grafts. Probably because of the extremely small punch size of the needle. And it seems the 1's and 2's are evenly divided, which would mean an average of 1.5. But please note that this just my own conclusion, based on the 2 tests.

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                Originally posted by tom vercetti
                                but arashi should be happy as the donor should be shave again when I come back to double the density. So, professional photographer will do his job.
                                If you can prove (or disprove) dr Nigam's theories like this, I think I won't be the only one you're making happy Tom Your case is a very very interesting case for all us baldies out there ! Thx for taking the time to document it !

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