Dr Nigam, my own experience

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  • ar50
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 115

    Originally posted by KO1
    And yet you avoid the question, after all this talk of HAIR MULTIPLICATION and STEM CELLS, end of the day, the patient has a mediocre result after three procedures and a very high hairline. FUE would have given him the exact same thing. Dumbass.


    If Gho was truly multiplying hairs, we'd see epic results well above and beyond what traditional transplants provide.
    So unless you refuse to use finastride, we are all ****ed? Im getting sad again. This Cotsarelis guy doesnt give a lot of info. and there is no good medicine to stop my hair loss, only finastride. I am afraid to lose my manhood if I use it.

    Siriously, I really want to cry sometimes. There is nothing what can help me. I prayed to god, still nothing.

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    • ar50
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 115

      Originally posted by 534623
      Yeah I asked it a few times but nobody gave me an answer and a doctor in holland refered to the backhead only as the donor area.

      Thanks cuzz

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      • 534623
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1854

        Originally posted by KO1

        And yet you avoid the question, after all this talk of HAIR MULTIPLICATION and STEM CELLS, end of the day, the patient has a mediocre result after three procedures and a very high hairline.
        And you are the one who can tell about "result" by seeing photos from a guy, who always shaves his head down to the bone, sure ...

        And yeah, you're the guy who is even able to predict the outcome from a patient, who just recently got his 3rd procedure, sure ...

        By the way - if you don't want to think yourself or if you unable to think yourself or if you don't have a clue about facts - go back to the remaining 6 dwarfs at HS - they think for you.

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        • ar50
          Senior Member
          • May 2013
          • 115

          But siriously: Im getting so depressed these days.
          Im 22 years old and i suffer from diffused thinning. I dont have the courage to approach ladies. And each day I take a look at the forum: nothing.

          All my hopes were restored on Histogen and we all know how that ended.

          I really want to cry everyday and dont leave the house. I feel so ugly and im always depressed. I really hop that Dr. Cotsarelis gives us more news, but i know not to focus all my hope on him. It's just so unfair when I see guys having a cool hairstyle and shit and I know I cannot have that.

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          • KO1
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 805

            Originally posted by ar50
            So unless you refuse to use finastride, we are all ****ed? Im getting sad again. This Cotsarelis guy doesnt give a lot of info. and there is no good medicine to stop my hair loss, only finastride. I am afraid to lose my manhood if I use it.

            Siriously, I really want to cry sometimes. There is nothing what can help me. I prayed to god, still nothing.
            Pretty much yeah, you are screwed. Apart from fin/dut and perhaps RU/CB etc, if you're not on those then every day you'll continue to lose more and more hair. Your fear of fin is irrational, but not uncommon on hairloss forums. As a sidenote, if you're not approaching the ladies, you're not using your "manhood" anyways.

            Potentially the PGD2 blockers are a good option worth trying, but it's of course no guarantee.

            The worst thing you can do is to delay getting on medications in the hope that Histogen/Follica/ARI come up with something. Whatever path you choose, you have to act now...or forever keep your peace.

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            • KO1
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 805

              Originally posted by ar50
              still nobody answered my question: why dont the HT doctors use the hair on the sides of our heads as donor area?
              Density on the sides is low, and the sides aren't always safe. With strip, you'd need to make the strip longer. FUE doctors tend to scour a wide area, so many of them do use the sides.

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              • ar50
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 115

                Originally posted by KO1
                Pretty much yeah, you are screwed. Apart from fin/dut and perhaps RU/CB etc, if you're not on those then every day you'll continue to lose more and more hair. Your fear of fin is irrational, but not uncommon on hairloss forums.

                Potentially the PGD2 blockers are a good option worth trying, but it's of course no guarantee.

                The worst thing you can do is to delay getting on medications in the hope that Histogen/Follica/ARI come up with something. Whatever path you choose, you have to act now...or forever keep your peace.


                I will pray to god that he give Dr. C the power and knowledge and hopefully the luck to finish his shit. I really really hope this guy has already did human trails.


                Suppose he already did human trails and he is at phase 2B. How long would it probably take for him to finish his shit?

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                • ar50
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 115

                  Originally posted by KO1
                  Density on the sides is low, and the sides aren't always safe. With strip, you'd need to make the strip longer. FUE doctors tend to scour a wide area, so many of them do use the sides.
                  aah now its clear for me. But what do you mean with not safe: that the quality is low or that the it will have bad effects on your health?

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                  • KO1
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 805

                    By the time Cotsarelis is done, you'll be past your twenties and bald. You may get your hair back in the mid 30s, but will you be happy?


                    Just get on medications. You're already sad and depressed and if your family history is bad, you're only going to get worse. Or just buzz it off and get on with your life.

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                    • KO1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 805

                      Sides tend to be thinner than back. Even men without hair loss can have low density on the sides.

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                      • StinkySmurf
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 124

                        Originally posted by 534623
                        Yeah, you're right - because there a so many obstacles in India get a licence for anything....
                        It's not as certain as the red diamond tattoo of the Suk School, but lets not kid ourselves Iron Man... You wouldn't be convinced in Dr. Nigam's work even if he went to the trouble to get one of those, and in all honesty, why should anyone be since we all know what happened with Dr. Yueh?

                        But for me, I still like to start with the hippocratic oath and a license

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                        • ar50
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 115

                          Originally posted by KO1
                          By the time Cotsarelis is done, you'll be past your twenties and bald. You may get your hair back in the mid 30s, but will you be happy?


                          Just get on medications. You're already sad and depressed and if your family history is bad, you're only going to get worse. Or just buzz it off and get on with your life.
                          You are cold as ice! but your're telling the truth. I think im going to use a combination of fin/keratene and minox


                          But dont you think cotsarelis will find the solution in 2 years? and what are your thought on dr nigam?

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                          • Pentarou
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 482

                            It's not do much a matter of when or if Cotsarelis and team fit the pieces together and find a solution (for all we know on the outside, he and Follica could have already cracked it, highly secretive as they are) it's a matter of when or if the company eventually has something for sale. Of that, none of us can tell you. We would all be much calmer and happier individuals here if we knew anything with any degree of certainty.

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                            • ar50
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 115

                              Originally posted by Pentarou
                              It's not do much a matter of when or if Cotsarelis and team fit the pieces together and find a solution (for all we know on the outside, he and Follica could have already cracked it, highly secretive as they are) it's a matter of when or if the company eventually has something for sale. Of that, none of us can tell you. We would all be much calmer and happier individuals here if we knew anything with any degree of certainty.
                              true dat! I wish we knew a way to find informatiion about what he is doing.
                              Maybe we can find some balding NSA agent and use the PRISM

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                              • x4342
                                Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 55

                                Originally posted by ar50


                                I will pray to god that he give Dr. C the power and knowledge and hopefully the luck to finish his shit. I really really hope this guy has already did human trails.


                                Suppose he already did human trails and he is at phase 2B. How long would it probably take for him to finish his shit?

                                Take K01's advice. It's very good. If it all possible your primary goal should simply be to stabilize your hair loss. If you can handle fin you need to be on it. If not, try a topical like RU. We all wish there was an actual cure available or soon to be available but the worst thing you can do is just keep hoping rather than acting. Trust me, I've been there. You need to do what you can and then just try and relax. Stabilize and wait.
                                There are three good reasons:

                                1. Until you are really bald, it can always get worse. You still have plenty of hair as evidenced by your photo. Better yet, you are diffuse rather than actually having bald patches. It's easy to get down on your hair and think "it's crap" but believe me it will just get crappier with time.

                                2. Your confidence will actually improve if you simply manage to stabilize your hair. When I was losing hair it was stressful for two reasons. Obviously my hair looked bad, but there was the additional stress of continuously noticing that it was getting worse. Now that my loss appears to have stabilized I just have crap hair! It becomes easier to deal with this fact by itself when it's not accompanied by the stress of realizing that you have less hair than you did a year ago.

                                3. It's unlikely that you will benefit much from newly emerging technologies if you let your hair go. Unfortunately there is no true cure on the horizon. It's unlikely we are going to see something that just turns Larry David into Diego Maradona any time soon. What is going to happen in the near future is that we are going to see incremental progress in terms of reviving miniaturized hair. You mentioned Histogen... Assuming things pan out I suspect it will be far more useful if you actually still have plenty of hair rather than actually being bald. Therefore it's imperative that you still have hair if you hope to take advantage of Histogen, Replicel or any of the other mid-term potential solutions. Even if you don't like how your hair looks you should be holding on to it so that you will actually have a chance to benefit from these emerging solutions.

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