Dr Nigam, my own experience

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

7G. The cost and time to transform NW7 to NW2 (10000 grafts) through Dr. Gho’s technique will cost very high (approximately USD $13000 for 2000 Grafts which means US $50000 for 10000 Grafts) and this transformation will take atleast 5 years.7G. The cost and time to transform NW7 to NW2 (10000 grafts) through Dr. Gho’s technique will cost very high (approximately USD $13000 for 2000 Grafts which means US $50000 for 10000 Grafts) and this transformation will take atleast 5 years.7G. The cost and time to transform NW7 to NW2 (10000 grafts) through Dr. Gho’s technique will cost very high (approximately USD $13000 for 2000 Grafts which means US $50000 for 10000 Grafts) and this transformation will take atleast 5 years.

[mm05035]

if this is true about dr nigam and we see actual results, I am booking my ticket NOW. but do we know for sure that there will be regenaration of the donor area? I am NW6 and already had 2 FUEs so my donor is almost depleted

[veca]

QUESTION FOR DR. Nigam or someone else who has knowledge:
Does HM immunizes existing follicles from further hair loss???

[drnigams]

gc,

This is what ,i have to say in reply to your post....

1) In-vitro hairdoubling is simply about bisection at the correct level then why cant other FUE docs do it. Unfortunately due to regulatory issues, they cannot inject pro-genitor stem cells, multiplied follicle stem cells, trichogenic dp cells, trichogenic dp culture, optional and/or growth factors which are essential for repair of these bisected follicles and also compensate for the loss of follicle fragment in either bisected follicle. Anything can be done by anyone provided they have the right ingredients, right bisection, mini clinical trials and the requisite experience with such a procedure.

2)I already mentioned many a times in the years to come after the last invention by Dr.Woods, this will be the next practical invention with all humbleness... DR.NIGAM, the inventor of in-vitro hair doubling. I already registered the same with patent application but I DON'T BELIEVE in patents of medical procedures as I owe this knowledge to researchers like JAHODA, FUCHS, TOYOSHIMA OF TSUJI, DR.GERD and MANY MORE. I would like to share this technique worldwide ASAP, let your local doctors be communicated and are welcome to contact me, specially the younger ones because if they learn in-vitro hair doubling, they can get the major market share in the city in the minimum time. They can also test the efficacy and safety of this technique by visiting my Mumbai clinic and subsequently learn....
... goal and ..

MY VISION is... "BY 8th JAN 2015, 8:30 AM... I SHOULD SEE 90% SUCCESS RATE IN CONVERSIO9N OF NW7 TO NW2 BY PURE HAIR MULTIPLICATION AND/OR MINIMAL SCALP ABRASION BY PAINLESS TOOL AND PENETRATION OF PHARMACEUTICAL COMPOUNDS TO COUNTER MICRO-INFLAMMATIONS/ANDROGENS."

If you're asking me how can Gho possibly extract grafts blindly and do so successfully, then I can only say that his patented triple wave needle he uses with the guidance of the hair shaft allows him to bisect at the optimal point.

I suspect you are right in that Gho won't get it right all the time, I don't think that has even been in question, hence the reason why he only guarantees 80% regrowth!

The invitro process sounds interesting, but if it were this easy then why doesn't all the FUE doctors do what you're doing? Basically extract using a 1mm punch and bisect at the correct point under a microscope. It sounds so easy!

What would happen if you didn't make any injections afterwards doing the extracting and implanting? We would have FUE sized scars right? And would the bisected grafts still grow?

I wish you could do a 50 grafts patch test on a patient who shaves his head regularly down to a zero or grade 1, so we can easily see the grafts before and afterwards using Invitro procedure (with photos from the correct distance as documented in my own case and less of these super zoomed in photos focusing on 1 FU, to me they seem almost pointless).

Everything else up to now in terms of patch tests etc has been unverifiable IMO, perhaps the documentation on Tom will prove otherwise.

I hope you can succeed!

[drnigams]

gc,
Regards your other question...with no offence ..in response to invitro versus invivo doubling technique...

1)If hst's triple wave needle could blindly bisect the follicle longitudnally ,we should have seen the same in the petridish pics of the bisected grafts.....
Rather we saw fue extracted grafts with bulb and transected doubles fue grafts.....

Contrary to the claim that... with triple wave needle,hst bisects the graft longitudnally..as mentioned in their website and published article...you can confirm that the[B] histo slide of the bisected graft in their website and article..shows follicular unit bisection and not longitudnal follicle

Though in their animation on website and computer diagrammatic pics in their article ....they have shown,longitudnal follicle bisection...
I am probably the first doctor to independently verify their claims and raise question..which was only possible when they agreed to do 50graft patch ,after my patch test..and we could see the grafts with bulbs in petridish..count failed extractions,see transected doubles,the telogen count they were adding etc.
Uptil now in 10years ..such a scrutiny(to approve or disapprove..in arashi's language) has not happened and independent scrutiny was neither allowed ..by hst as per didi.
We have already discussed in detail about the ILLUSIONARY preservation medium to multiply follicles,we have already discussed ..dermal sheath with stemcells..which is inherent in a follicle,even when extracted like an fue or fut..cannot be claimed as STEMCELL HAIR TRANSPLANT..

I RESPECT DR GHO FOR HIS WORK..BUT SORRY NOT FOR THE CLAIMS ..AS OF NOW..AND not for keeping for oneself..if you really have the solution..?
HOW WILL MEDICAL SCIENCE MOVE WITHOUT SHARING..
I have been constantly told by my ceo and clinic collegues..NOT TO SHARE EVERYTHING..REGARDS TECHNIQUE..
BUT ,I BELIEVE..WHAT YOU GIVE TO THE WORLD..IS WHAT YOU GET BACK..

If i can be scrutinized..which is perfect and fine ..why should not hst be scrutinized(criteria has to be same for all)....we live in 2013...where everything... should to be scrutinized by patients , and not just awe and celeb status...should be criteria of work performed..

I will be happy..to be proved wrong..by hst...if they transparently..prove their technique works...same for my or anyone else technique..

You ,as the patients, are here to scrutinize and approve or disapprove newer/older techniques...
Competition helps both..patients and doctors..
Competition also leads to improvement in products..and reduction in prices for consumers...
OFFLATE, new standards have been set at the forum.
..prove with independepennt documentation..or ....come back again with more proofs..


gc,the micro zoomed pics of tom's donor and regen,as we post more and more PICS..will atleast ,confirm that the extracted wounds are generating follicles..as these pics are sent by tom..and not myself..
I have always been open for any member ,who agrees to tattoo and shaving for documentation..anytime..
Till that time skeptics (rightly so)will have to wait ,as i document, at least one forum member case ,every month as per my booking status..
If i were hst with clinic at amsterdum and london..i would have asap called..gc,arashi,jjjr,im,didi,hellouser,cadarick. .for a free 50 graft patch test..to prove my technique..and not waited for 10 years ..when other options arrive..in HT industry..
No offence..dr gho..i have put myself into the hands of forum members for scrutiny...and i am not claiming my technique IS approved or disapproved BY THE VARIOUS FORUMS ,as of now..

If you're asking me how can Gho possibly extract grafts blindly and do so successfully, then I can only say that his patented triple wave needle he uses with the guidance of the hair shaft allows him to bisect at the optimal point.

I suspect you are right in that Gho won't get it right all the time, I don't think that has even been in question, hence the reason why he only guarantees 80% regrowth!

The invitro process sounds interesting, but if it were this easy then why doesn't all the FUE doctors do what you're doing? Basically extract using a 1mm punch and bisect at the correct point under a microscope. It sounds so easy!

What would happen if you didn't make any injections afterwards doing the extracting and implanting? We would have FUE sized scars right? And would the bisected grafts still grow?

I wish you could do a 50 grafts patch test on a patient who shaves his head regularly down to a zero or grade 1, so we can easily see the grafts before and afterwards using Invitro procedure (with photos from the correct distance as documented in my own case and less of these super zoomed in photos focusing on 1 FU, to me they seem almost pointless).

Everything else up to now in terms of patch tests etc has been unverifiable IMO, perhaps the documentation on Tom will prove otherwise.

I hope you can succeed!

[didi]

You are absolutely right dr nigam, you put you balls on the line and your reputation is in the hands of one of the harshest critics
Hasci will never do proper 50 graft test, mark my words, I was right about everything so far.

If hasci wanted to do test they would have done it many times in the past 8 years , he d be rich and famous (assuming it worked)and by now even birds in the tree would know abt dr gho and his stemm cell HM.

No transparency, scrutiny not allowed, no wow transformations, 2 tests failed, they made it impossible to anazlize even though its been explained to them step by step, petri dish shows transected doubles, crazy number of failed extractions, no 3 hair grafts, its all smoke and mirrors.

Its sad to see desperate forum members chasing gho to prove his technique , and the saddest part is that some of them still believe it works..whereas others are wishfully thinking it works to some extent (50% regeneration ),

its miserable state of affairs

[534623]

If you're asking me how can Gho possibly extract grafts blindly and do so successfully, then I can only say that his patented triple wave needle he uses with the guidance of the hair shaft allows him to bisect at the optimal point.

That's basically correct - the dead, coarse and hard hair shafts (simply the HAIRS itself) serve as guidance for the special needle, whose end/tip is a triple waved sharp/blunt combination.

I think even a technical idiot is able to understand the following pics ...


... as well as the difference between HST- and FUE-extractions. With a sharp FUE punch, there is nothing what could serve as "guidiance" to extract follicles completely intact - contrary to HST, whose intention is NOT to extract follicles intact/complete.

[didi]

546895,

now go and take a look at petri dish and tell me what do you see?
One hair with bulb and one without(transected), which one is stem cell one that will grow?

[534623]

546895,

now go and take a look at petri dish and tell me what do you see?
One hair with bulb and one without(transected), which one is stem cell one that will grow?

What I can see? Let me look ...

http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12643640/img/12643640.jpg

I can see in the petri dish section which is labled with "2" typical/normal HST grafts (see for reference the pic on the left in my previous post) ...

...and in the petri dish section which is labled with "1" - there are also typical/normal HST grafts, whereby in this case most of the 2-hair (or even some 3-hair) grafts show at least 1 amputated HST-FOLLICLE within the grafts; that means, at least 1 follicle of a 2-hair or 3-hair HST graft is transected LONGITUDINALLY as well as HORIZONTALLY. These longitudinally as well as horizontally transected follicles within the HST grafts could be rather considered as "HST 3.0" follicles. That means, it's hard to tell which type of follicular unit such grafts produce in the RECIPIENT site. A full regeneration in the donor site, with the same characteristics, is definitely not a problem, where such grafts were harvested - that means, no loss. And that means, even such extractions/grafts will produce a GAIN.

[TravisB]

Even IF this would really work, aren't there any safety concerns.

I mean Dr. Nigam didn't go through FDA and all that shit, and yet he's doing this procedure on humans.

[clandestine]

Even IF this would really work, aren't there any safety concerns.

I mean Dr. Nigam didn't go through FDA and all that shit, and yet he's doing this procedure on humans.

***** the FDA, honestly. Halts progress made under guise of safety.

[Tacola]

Dr. Nigam will be the hero of everyone when he solves this issue regarding HM. It seems like he has already done it, but just needs to get the evidence right.

I have already made up my mind to go and visit him this fall/early winter. This is after the results from Tom and others should be clear. I`m thinkin about staying for about one and a half week so that the healing can start for real and I dont have to travel back home with scabs and all that over my head. Does any one want to join forces and meet up down there?

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

i might

[TravisB]

Don't you all find it a little weird that some doc from India all of sudden finds the cure for baldness when even multi million dollar companies can't crack that hair multiplication mystery?

[drnigams]

DIDI,ARASHI,GC...
Kindly read this page from drbernstien...and explain im..

://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair-transplant/follicular-unit-extraction/pros-and-cons-fue/a-challenge-of-fue/

(sorry you will have to paste the link at google)

... what the ht surgeons call FUE transected grafts...hst calls..hst grafts..and claim donor doubling...

IM..your railway tracks..is half the story..inside the scalp the base of the follicles with the root are splayed out..and not..straight..
even the round fue punch, uses the hair shaft of bundles of follicles as guide..nothing new what hst does with their triple wave fue punch..

lesser the diameter of round punch or triple wave needle/punch(.5mm/.6mm..more the chances of transection..that is what the fue docs want to avoid..to prevent damage to hair bulb..
the picture on your left is after the graft is extracted..not when it is inside the scalp..do not misguide members with dramatic visual presentations..

That's basically correct - the dead, coarse and hard hair shafts (simply the HAIRS itself) serve as guidance for the special needle, whose end/tip is a triple waved sharp/blunt combination.

I think even a technical idiot is able to understand the following pics ...


... as well as the difference between HST- and FUE-extractions. With a sharp FUE punch, there is nothing what could serve as "guidiance" to extract follicles completely intact - contrary to HST, whose intention is NOT to extract follicles intact/complete.