DR NIGAM, re: Tom Vercetti, the French Moderator

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  • oppenheimer82
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 118

    #61
    nice little story you got there, i almost shed a tear. but still no valid reason to act like a complete moron all the time.

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    • PayDay
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 544

      #62
      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
      Side note, if Nigam opened a clinic in the US for donor doubling I'd be the first in line.
      I personally think that his is a very sad comment that shows how desperate young hair loss guys can be. Do you guys even know the history of Dr. Nigam's practice? Where did he come from and where did he train in hair transplants? Can anyone in the scientific community vouch for him? Anyone?

      Why is he spending so much time on hair loss forums fighting with people and trying to prove his concept to young, desperate, strangers who can only do one thing for him, and that is potentially pay him for his services.

      If he is able to do what he claims, it will be public knowledge. The scientific community would really be involved with him. So far all we have is a bunch of snapshots taken at various conferences to prove that he is legit. Do you really think that this proves anything?

      All I'm saying is that everyone needs to be cautious. Let's just see how things play out before declaring Dr. Nigam our savior. Be smart.

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        #63
        Originally posted by PayDay
        All I'm saying is that everyone needs to be cautious. Let's just see how things play out before declaring Dr. Nigam our savior. Be smart.
        That's probably why he said "I don't really have an opinion on Nigam yet, waiting to see more proof".

        But yeah, there are people here on this board who already see Dr Nigam as our saviour. Maybe he is, but I'd really need to see a lot more proof. Tomorrow's venture is a great start. If a NW6 follows with a 4000-5000 grafts procedure, THEN it starts to really get interesting !

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        • veca
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 219

          #64
          Payday...I would not agree with all you said. Of course we need to be cautious and wait for more evidence, and that is what we are doing right now, and that is why we insist that we see more NW7 cases. But Dr. Nigam is the only one that has to prove something last 10 years, I'm excited but I'm not over excited, just so that I'm too careful and possibly disappointment will not throw me into a depression as it was earlier. If Dr. Nigam cheats all the time (and I hope it is not so) .... then he cheats himself.
          DR. Nigam.... We keep crossed fingers, good luck tomorrow.

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          • veca
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 219

            #65
            Arashi my friend, when you are so positive and optimistic ... I hope that you are now feeling better :-) ... hope for the best and the best will come back to us

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            • One
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 132

              #66
              Originally posted by PayDay
              Do you guys even know the history of Dr. Nigam's practice? Where did he come from and where did he train in hair transplants? Can anyone in the scientific community vouch for him? Anyone?

              All I'm saying is that everyone needs to be cautious. Let's just see how things play out before declaring Dr. Nigam our savior. Be smart.
              This intervention of Araschi under is, in my opinion, the most realistic vision of the phenomenon Nigam.

              Originally posted by Arashi
              He's very knowledgeable and does seem to put in a lot of effort to find a cure. However, my current theory (and it is just a theory of course) is that he's holding onto the 'fake it until you make it' dogma. I don't believe in his current HM doubling, I personally think that anybody going to his clinic is just a test case for him, an experiment in an attempt to find a cure. Which he actually might, one day.

              If we want to give to each other un'approccio rational need to clarify a few things:

              -Where, when and with whom the Dr.Nigam has experienced a doubling?

              -How do he say it can implant 5000-6000 grafts in a session, when Gho, or any other chiurugo FUE, they say that you are likely to damage the donor with sessions so big?

              -How come its website continues to be so bad? Now any company / serious professional has to deal with its virtual image, it is not serious about having a similar site because you can pensere which is actually a poor
              doctor.

              -Safety procedures are certified? Dott.Nigam says yes, but how we do verify this for sure?

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              • youngin
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 338

                #67
                Originally posted by PayDay
                Why is he spending so much time on hair loss forums fighting with people and trying to prove his concept to young, desperate, strangers who can only do one thing for him, and that is potentially pay him for his services.
                Thats right. We would prefer doctors who don't want to make any progress or share any information with us . I for one am not young and desperate, quite the opposite. I wouldn't line up for anyone until they have proven themselves 100%. There's only 2 or 3 doctors in the world I would consider going to for a hair transplant. This doctor is taking time he doesn't need to take to explain very many details about his progress and innovation. Querying the minds of many. It amazes me how online communities are always so cynical that they try to stifle innovation with pessimism. People like IronMan are the promoters of stagnation with endless trolling. Sure there are stupid and desperate people that get taken advantage of. I have not seen Nigam trying to take advantage of anyone. Is flying someone out and doing free procedures advantageous to a millionaire biochemist??? Everyone needs to stop being so negative and just help innovation while its knocking at our door. /END RANT

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #68
                  Originally posted by One
                  -Where, when and with whom the Dr.Nigam has experienced a doubling?
                  Yep, that's exactly the thing. Dr Nigams only does Hair Doubling since a few months ! That means he doesn't have 1 patient who can be in the 'final result' phase of the produre. This (and much more) makes me believe it's all 1 big experiment. However that doesn't mean that it doesn't work ! It just might. A lot of his theories make a lot of sense and Dr Nigams seems very confident, if he wasn't, then he wouldn't publicize tomorrow's case. So let's hope it works !

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1360

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Arashi
                    Yep, that's exactly the thing. Dr Nigams only does Hair Doubling since a few months ! That means he doesn't have 1 patient who can be in the 'final result' phase of the produre. This (and much more) makes me believe it's all 1 big experiment. However that doesn't mean that it doesn't work ! It just might. A lot of his theories make a lot of sense and Dr Nigams seems very confident, if he wasn't, then he wouldn't publicize tomorrow's case. So let's hope it works !


                    and he only started doubling technique in October/November last year.

                    im confused as to how does he know technique is working (to evaluate recipient area you need at least 9 months )?

                    He is so confident in hair doubling that he decided to drop fue/fut

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                    • drnigams
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 551

                      #70
                      Pay day,
                      Kindly think..
                      ..if i would spend quality time for few days..it is not difficult to create a top class website with following details(which will be ready in two months..as i spend some time for it..) ,animative,informative,patient interactive,testimonials,patients blog,media reports,principle of drnigams techniques,news section,clinic lab pics,credentials,licenses of FDA,international consultants in team,lab tie up's,dr nigams visits to congress.,videos,documentaries,research section,whichever part of the world the patient enters to website,he will get his website specific to his country with local testimonials and language,doubling graft calculator,skype consultations,multiple case presentation,drnigams scientific lectures,compare drnigam's technique with fut/fue/hst,HM and its details with pics of every process including photon imaging,immunochemistry,H&E staining,cytoflowmetry stemcell counts,stemcell marker pics,laser microscope pics and some pics from gerd and other researchers lab,drnigams meetings with top stemcell researchers and globe trotting and lectures world wide schedule..etc

                      You will see all the above and more ... Comparable with top 5 HT sites of the world, two months from now...

                      You fail to understand and are confusing members ..that great website means ..great product...this is partly true..but check out 70% MPB cure providers, with new products having top class website..but no result..except fina and minoxidil...
                      Check out how many people had bad fut scar with top class website..
                      Great website is important for generating business...and if i did not get time to work on it...and focus on research..it speaks about what is my focus..business or research..with present not upto the mark website ..my clinic is full..ask tom...patient next to him was from australia..another for doubling a case of NW7..total my clinic does..5 to 8 cases a day..which is not a small count by one clinic per day..with team of surgeons and technicians..
                      Ask Tom..10 people team was working on him...one for extraction for stemcells,one for hair design,one for dp culture extraction,one for dp cell isolation,one for pre implantation site,one nurse with ice..for pain control,one took the blood for prp and processed..one for trimming and making the graft single etc.And I directing the show with quality check on every step..and not to count the lab staff..

                      In his last procedure tom only had one doctor and one technician to do 1000 grafts at hairline...and he has to repeat his procedure..as he was not satisfied...

                      You can later ask Tom..to compare pain,detailed work at my clinic versus his last experience with number one clinic (and most expensive clinic) of europe at belgium(i will not take the name)...and also compare the fue versus doubling graft regen...

                      This is the real thing to analyze or complain about a clinic or product and not just marketing presentations...

                      Of course as,my marketing presentations with websites,media,
                      becomes better...once i have proven my technique...the price will have to be increased to cover up all those new cost.
                      ....except,.. no price increase for my positive friends on forum..who are helping me with my research....

                      Few days back..after 10 years you got hst do a patch test for forum..which did not work..i have not seen, even in archives of all forums..any fue.fut. analyzed documented with microscopic hair count...except form few members from who took hst treatment..which is still not conclusive for donor and recep regen..neither their site offers this confusion..with case study..they have also shown..shaven head in before pics and hair grown in after pics..with great website..plus have claimed to extract stemcells and implant them....with a great website...and a published paper.....

                      With full respect to hst..i would like to analyze others and my clinic... with the same bar of standard...not just because ...of great website alone...you will end up given wrong advice to members...

                      To brief you,regards your querry again... i am an ht physician and masters in biotech with an FDA licensed lab...and i do not know any ht surgeon who is also qualified as masters in biotech... And perform 100 plus HT per month per clinic...
                      My senior surgeon is UK,GMC license holder who can practice both in uk and india,we have three more cosmetic surgeons,one anaesthetic full time,two dermatologist, technicians,nurses and biotechs...with 100 plus employees...
                      with corporate two clinics together 5000plus 4000 sqft area...

                      If you have any doubts please confirm..do not presume...as you do not presume for when you speak about my doubling or HM technique...


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                      • Californication
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 134

                        #71
                        Good luck Dr. Nigams, here's to hoping you're 1 in 10 billion, personally I'm starting to allow myself to think that you may just be.

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                        • Phatalis
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 263

                          #72
                          I hope Dr Nigams just improved upon techiques and has something totally new and amazing going on here. I really ****ing do.



                          lol

                          I mean, I don't care about new cars, boats or any other random shit all I want is my hair lol. If he indeed cracked a way to "cure" baldness... i'd put a poster of him up in my room in my house hahaha

                          Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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                          • madeinitaly
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 8

                            #73
                            Dr Nigam

                            i just wanna say i sent an email to Dr Nigam and he has been very kind and i hope i can try this procedure so i can post everything on here!! if he wants i can post all the pics, even video so we can see if this procedure is working or can be done in a different way. i'm not scared to try it i trust Dr Nigam honestly. he has been very honest on the results of 2012. i wish more doctors as him, sharing all the info and no keeping secrets only to earn big money. i hope he will reach the goal to cure the baldy guys like me. Dr Nigam go head and go fast!! we need your science and your intellectual spirit of shearing results.

                            Cordial regards,

                            Dario Beccaria

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                            • UK_
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2691

                              #74
                              I dont see what the quality of a website has to do with anything when we're talking about direct independent researchers launching their own techniques through lab-based research.

                              These doctors have been in the game far too long to worry about plush websites and online marketing - Dr Gho had a pretty average website before he clearly hired a team of designers to make a new one, that doesnt take away from the fact he has been working on improving hair loss treatments long before most of you people even knew what the word internet meant.

                              I wont be judging the work of Dr Gho on his previous website, nor his new one, Ill judge it on the fact that he has proven time and time again that donor regeneration is possible through documented cases and clear evidence from reliable sources.

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                              • 534623
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1854

                                #75
                                Originally posted by madeinitaly

                                i trust Dr Nigam honestly. he has been very honest on the results of 2012.
                                Which results of 2012?
                                I couldn't see not even 1 legit "result" this year.

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