Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

[simba]

And the most serious indicator that there is something wrong: the fact that the company abandoned the project is very suspicious. Do you really think that it was a money issue? Of course not! They woudn´t be stupid at that point. They abandoned it because something related to safety was found.

They abandoned the project because it wasnt stable in solution form.

[Xoxo]

They abandoned the project because it wasnt stable in solution form.

Why wasn't it stable in solution form? / Who said that?
In the German forum, some chemically professional guy tested the stability in solution at room temperature.
Last result was that it is absolutely stable after 231 days.
The solution used was "Bifon Haarlösung". Many guys of the German forum use it because it is similar to K&B solution and relatively cheap.

[Jajaja]

I got some questions regarding ru in general. I'm 20 yrs old, have been balding (noticed it) a year ago.
Some short history:
I Started out with fin where i got some minor bad symptoms, at the sixth month of fin i got chestpains/ gyno burning feelings and i had/have some hard lumps in my chest, i'm not sure it were there before or not. It probably was.
i stopped using fin and started out minox, and have been using it for 6-7 months, but i'm afraid that it wont save my hair long enough.

Now to the questions:
Anyone that got that burning feeling in the chest from ru alone ? If anyone have had chestpains while using fin and instead started with ru?
Or just stopped with fin from any bad symptoms, did it come back with ru?

Is the bad symptoms from fin the same as ru?

Is it possible to use the powder directly in the minoxidil liquid?

This might be some stupid questions, but i don't really know what to do in my situation

[Scalpology]

Hellouser. What do you think about mixing 6 ml Neogenic capsule with 150 of RU, then applying 1/3rd of capsule every day? That's 2 ml daily with 50 mg of RU. I can apply it pretty well, just started. Is it a good start? Might bump up to 100 mg RU daily (300 mg per capsule of Neogenic). RU dissolves completely in Neogenic.

[Denda]

Am I able to have a pharmacy simply order PG for me with no prescription ?

[Californication]

I got some questions regarding ru in general. I'm 20 yrs old, have been balding (noticed it) a year ago.
Some short history:
I Started out with fin where i got some minor bad symptoms, at the sixth month of fin i got chestpains/ gyno burning feelings and i had/have some hard lumps in my chest, i'm not sure it were there before or not. It probably was.
i stopped using fin and started out minox, and have been using it for 6-7 months, but i'm afraid that it wont save my hair long enough.

Now to the questions:
Anyone that got that burning feeling in the chest from ru alone ? If anyone have had chestpains while using fin and instead started with ru?
Or just stopped with fin from any bad symptoms, did it come back with ru?

Is the bad symptoms from fin the same as ru?

Is it possible to use the powder directly in the minoxidil liquid?

This might be some stupid questions, but i don't really know what to do in my situation

Very similar to you. Started treating balding when I was 19.5 with fin and minox. Four months in with fin and I started getting signs of gyno (puffy nips, fat around the area, bigger areolas--> studies show the earliest cases of fin gyno show up at around 4 months so I was sensitive obviously). Went off fin, took nothing for a couple months, hopped on low dosage of RU working my way up from 15/20 mg to 50 mg.

At 50 mg, started to get weird chest feeling that I can't describe. I think burning might be a good description, it wasn't gyno this time, but it felt bad, and I woke up in the morning (I applied RU at night) with a weird, heavy chest feeling. Didn't like it and didn't think it was worth my health to stay on RU, were a couple cases of other people who were very sensitive experiencing similar things on RU that scared me--> regardless of whether it was RU that causes these problems in other people, I knew it gave me a burning sensation and I didn't think the risk was worth it.. Got off RU for a couple months hopped on to low dosage of fin, 0.25 mg every third day (lowest recommended dosage which I worked up to). Did that for two months at which point gyno symptoms reappeared faster this time, puffy nips and all. Quit fin after 3 months, never going on it again.

Even Saw Palmetto at this point seems to give some gyno symptoms which I'm just not willing to put up with at this point anymore. If I were you I would try one of these pills, I took a hair loss vitamin with about 550 mg of Saw Palmetto a day, biotin, all that stuff and imo it could help you so long as you're not quite as sensitive as me. Still hate hair loss and probably gonna go with something unconventional (SMP) to treat it but I've probably become somewhat more accepting than I used to be about losing hair. Am on minox right now, just bought Kirkland which is minox with DHT blocking properties supposedly so will give that a go perhaps.

Basically, had a similar experience to you at a young age so thought I'd share, sorry don't have any great advice but after scouring the web, there is no solution to those very sensitive to gyno really, just put up with it, hope it stabilizes maybe, or get off the medication. It's not like libido where taking lower doses really helps since the same amount of DHT is blocked roughly speaking by fin. And yes, you can mix RU with minox.

[fran]

Hey can anyone help me with this?

Had an HT 18th June, 3350 grafts. Just ordered 5% premixed RU in KB solution from anageninc. I've been using rogaine foam 2x a day since 4th July; should I apply RU after shower once my hair is dry, then Rogaine foam once RU has dried? I'm worried if I apply the foam first, the RU won't absorb properly. I was thinking of starting on .75 mls or even .5 mls for a few days before going up to 1 ml RU everyday.

Also, do you need to wash your hair every time you apply RU? I usually wash my hair every 2nd day.

Thanks!

[Jajaja]

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It really sounds that we had some similar sides. But i did not check if it really was gyno. I only had the burning feeling and some lumps, and i still got lumps left and honestly i don't know if it comes from the fin or if i just got it when i was younger.

I didnt have any puffy nips or any other changes in that region, but i cut the fin completely a couple of days after the burn and brought a anti-gyno med that many AAS gym guys use, might have saved me.

Started minox at late december last year, and i've been on it since.. But i haven't seen any progress.
Might going to try ru/propecia in very small doses, if it might help me to keep the hair a while longer, but the sides so far have been to much for me

[robodoc]

still working

Reason was, AFAIK, it was too costly to go through further trials and dropped.

I have been using RU but it does not help much. Is it stll working for you?
I was so happy to see what RU did for you.
Thanks.

[brocktherock]

Hey guys, I didn't take before and after pictures but I figured Id at least tell you about my progress. I started ru back in mid april, since then Ive experienced a ton of shedding. My density hasn't come back yet, however Ive noticed a ton of new terminal hairs in my temples and small vellous hairs that are much shorter than are just coming in. This is definitely not in my head, I was somewhat skeptical about ru but I bought it out of desperation. If Im lucky I hope to get my density back in a few more months like hellouser did. If my temples continue growing at this rate then that's incredible progress. I haven't experienced any side effects so I started using a little more than hellouser. Im thinking of adding finasteride if my density returns so I can focus on maintaining but that's a bit risky. I know without pictures you don't really care and you shouldn't but I figured Id at least contribute something.

[Kudu]

^Thanks for sharing! I'm hoping to get on RU soon and it's always good to hear something positive for a change.

[efedrez]

Hello Guys,

Just want to share my experience changing vehicles with RU.

I was using RU (on and off) with PG and everclear for over a month but was felling tenderness in my chest and sometimes something that can be describe as a burning sensation in my body (pretty odd felling).

I decided to change to the KB vehicle and bought a 3% solution from Anagen (of course I'm worry of sides so I didn't want to go over 3% for now) and so far so good

Its been only a week so nothing to report in terms of results yet but hopefully will see some improvements in about a couple of months

Does anyone knows why KB can be potentially better in terms of sides? is 3% to low to experience significant results (I'm applying 1 ml a day)?

[lucrio]

Hello Guys,

Just want to share my experience changing vehicles with RU.

I was using RU (on and off) with PG and everclear for over a month but was felling tenderness in my chest and sometimes something that can be describe as a burning sensation in my body (pretty odd felling).

I decided to change to the KB vehicle and bought a 3% solution from Anagen (of course I'm worry of sides so I didn't want to go over 3% for now) and so far so good

Its been only a week so nothing to report in terms of results yet but hopefully will see some improvements in about a couple of months

Does anyone knows why KB can be potentially better in terms of sides? is 3% to low to experience significant results (I'm applying 1 ml a day)?

I have never used KB but from what I have heard the reason it is suspected to be better in terms of sides is because of a film that it creates on or under the skin, not sure which or how. This film is supposed to block more RU from absorbing past the skin and into the body. So in essence, the RU stays on and under the skin, but does not go any further than that so it cannot be absorbed systemically.

I have no idea if this is true, but that is the idea. I am currently using RU 5% in PG/everclear and feel like I may be experiencing some sides. Mainly lower libido and softer and less frequent erections.

Out of curiosity, what percent strength were you using when you used PG/Everlcear? Also, has using KB completely eliminated your sides? I have though about perhaps trying KB or lowering my percent strength. Also, your 3% should definitely still be strong enough to see results. When i first started, I worked my way up from 1%, eventually reaching 5%, and when I was at about 2-3%, i still saw a lot less shedding and small vellus regrowth at the hairline.

[efedrez]

Out of curiosity, what percent strength were you using when you used PG/Everlcear? Also, has using KB completely eliminated your sides? I have though about perhaps trying KB or lowering my percent strength. Also, your 3% should definitely still be strong enough to see results. When i first started, I worked my way up from 1%, eventually reaching 5%, and when I was at about 2-3%, i still saw a lot less shedding and small vellus regrowth at the hairline.

I was using about 2 or 3% as well so I would say any improvements in terms of sides is not related to the amount of RU but to the vehicle.

Its been only a week for me on KB so it might be too soon to tell if sides will be gone for good but I can tell you that there is an improvement for sure.

I will post again in a couple of weeks and report on it

Thanks

[Sammygirl]

I've come across other RU guides. But, by far this seems the most honest and documented guide. Great work Hellouser. Many will find this useful. I second the idea that you should write a book! I will be checking out your link.