Complete RU58841 Usage Guide

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  • Mister Vod
    Junior Member
    • May 2014
    • 7

    Holy Detail Batman!!! Awesome!

    Did this stuff give you any side effects associated with Finasteride? I am super sensitive to it and avoid it. But it does block DHT - but only from the scalp?

    Anyone have any suggestions on this?

    Thanks,

    Mr. V

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    • artika
      Junior Member
      • May 2014
      • 23

      Is it safe to use RU under 18? I am 17

      Also does it help retrograde alopecia (I have thinning on the sides, and the only relative who lost his hair, a greatgrandfather, lost his sides too and only maintained the back and nape, but that remained thick)? I have no temple recession ( maybe a bit on one side).
      I have seen a derm and he said there is early miniaturization and no vellus hairs yet, but it's present everywhere, save for the back and the nape.
      I will also use kirkland minox.

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      • LMS
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 226

        Originally posted by Mister Vod
        Holy Detail Batman!!! Awesome!

        Did this stuff give you any side effects associated with Finasteride? I am super sensitive to it and avoid it. But it does block DHT - but only from the scalp?

        Anyone have any suggestions on this?

        Thanks,

        Mr. V

        I used dutasteride and got sides. I used RU for 8 days and got sides aswell, much more mild than dut tho, and they disappeared within a few days. Going to be restarting RU on a lower dose + experiment with vehicles. Hopefully RU will be my saving grace till a find a better side effect free topical.

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        • Plan C
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 341

          It's been suggested that RU works best when used soon after you take a shower. It's also been suggested that RU in kb solution creates a film that reduces the effectiveness of other topicals like minox. Therefore - taking a shower, using RU and then using minox would make minox fairly ineffective. However - taking a shower, using minox and later applying RU means that RU doesn't benefit from increased effectiveness available from taking a shower . . . Which is the correct order?
          (Sorry if this doesn't make a great deal of sense but I'm very hungover)

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          • Swooping
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 794

            Originally posted by Plan C
            It's been suggested that RU works best when used soon after you take a shower. It's also been suggested that RU in kb solution creates a film that reduces the effectiveness of other topicals like minox. Therefore - taking a shower, using RU and then using minox would make minox fairly ineffective. However - taking a shower, using minox and later applying RU means that RU doesn't benefit from increased effectiveness available from taking a shower . . . Which is the correct order?
            (Sorry if this doesn't make a great deal of sense but I'm very hungover)
            Just mix it into your minoxidil and apply on a dry clean scalp.

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            • Plan C
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 341

              Originally posted by Swooping
              Just mix it into your minoxidil and apply on a dry clean scalp.
              I use foam.

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              • robodoc
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 199

                Originally posted by Swooping
                Just mix it into your minoxidil and apply on a dry clean scalp.

                I apply the minoxidil 5% first then the RU. I personally do not think it matters what order they are applied since they should be applied within a minute of each other. Definitely a clean scalp will be optimal for absorption but hydro-alcholic solns are generally very well absorbed and that is what you have with the RU soln and Minoxidil. I think the appropriate dose of RU is most important.

                Most apply RU daily but I am not sure if that is necessary, ie, every other day.
                Do the studies show daily use is needed to get results?

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                • Mister Vod
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 7

                  Hi LMS,

                  What were the side effects? And did it work for you? Did it help your hair?

                  Should I use it on a dry scalp? Or wet scalp?

                  Thanks so much for sharing! Tough to trust vendors...

                  Mister Vod


                  Originally posted by LMS
                  I used dutasteride and got sides. I used RU for 8 days and got sides aswell, much more mild than dut tho, and they disappeared within a few days. Going to be restarting RU on a lower dose + experiment with vehicles. Hopefully RU will be my saving grace till a find a better side effect free topical.

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                  • Swooping
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 794

                    Originally posted by robodoc
                    I apply the minoxidil 5% first then the RU. I personally do not think it matters what order they are applied since they should be applied within a minute of each other. Definitely a clean scalp will be optimal for absorption but hydro-alcholic solns are generally very well absorbed and that is what you have with the RU soln and Minoxidil. I think the appropriate dose of RU is most important.

                    Most apply RU daily but I am not sure if that is necessary, ie, every other day.
                    Do the studies show daily use is needed to get results?
                    Exactly, does not matter indeed. The original macaque study was done doing 5 applications (weekends off) I never tried every other day, although I skip 1 day sometimes 2 days in the week and that is not a problem at all.

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                    • Dan26
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1270

                      Originally posted by Swooping
                      Exactly, does not matter indeed. The original macaque study was done doing 5 applications (weekends off) I never tried every other day, although I skip 1 day sometimes 2 days in the week and that is not a problem at all.
                      I've seen ''ru active at the AR for ~20hr'' thrown around before...you know if that is true bro?

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                      • lucrio
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 109

                        So I'm going to chime in here with my RU experience and also a question based on what I'm experiencing. I've been using RU for about 4 months now with good success. This thread helped out a lot learning everything I needed to know to get started so a thank you to Hellouser. I started at 1% concentration and increased to 5% concentration with little to no side effects. My results have been really good; shedding/loss is now minimal, almost none, thickening all around, and even some hairline regrowth. Basically RU has been doing for me what my best case fin expectations would be. A few weeks ago I decided to up the concentration even more and am now at about 6.7%. Recently I have had some trouble getting and maintaining erections and less libido. I don't know if I just noticed this and it has been going on a while or if it just started.

                        However, I have also been using marijuana nearly daily in the past two months. The weekend when I really started noticing the side effects was when I smoked pretty heavily. Now I am left wondering if my side effects are due to heavy marijuana usage, or increased RU concentration. I have stopped using marijuana for around a week now but the sides have yet to improve.

                        Does anyone here who has been trying RU also use marijuana? And do you think it would increase my chances of side effects? Its driving me nuts not knowing which one is to blame.(P.S I'm aware marijuana use is illegal in many places and am not encouraging it or condoning it, if the content of this post violates forum rules then I do not mind it being removed by the moderator)

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                        • Swooping
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 794

                          Originally posted by Dan26
                          I've seen ''ru active at the AR for ~20hr'' thrown around before...you know if that is true bro?
                          Nope, never came across the actual binding time.. But yeah some people throw that around i don't know if that is true.

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                          • goldnt
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 169

                            Originally posted by Dan26
                            I've seen ''ru active at the AR for ~20hr'' thrown around before...you know if that is true bro?
                            Id say it could be accurate, if i miss a day of ru i begin to have like this heat thumping sensation on my scalp throughout the day and it gets really itchy. Has happened for months when i had no treatments. When i used ru it completely stopped till of course i miss a day.

                            Quick question, ive been buying from kane for months but decided to buy from anagen. Is their quality still good? Id rather anagen because it cheaper,shipped inside US (so no customs hold up which happened to me), faster shipping(2day) and could pay with paypal.

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                            • lilpauly
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1084

                              Originally posted by goldnt
                              Id say it could be accurate, if i miss a day of ru i begin to have like this heat thumping sensation on my scalp throughout the day and it gets really itchy. Has happened for months when i had no treatments. When i used ru it completely stopped till of course i miss a day.

                              Quick question, ive been buying from kane for months but decided to buy from anagen. Is their quality still good? Id rather anagen because it cheaper,shipped inside US (so no customs hold up which happened to me), faster shipping(2day) and could pay with paypal.
                              It's the same , I think Kane sends every1 to anageninc to Order. Customs were destroying to many packages, it's the same price on Kane shop

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                              • lilpauly
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 1084

                                Originally posted by lucrio
                                So I'm going to chime in here with my RU experience and also a question based on what I'm experiencing. I've been using RU for about 4 months now with good success. This thread helped out a lot learning everything I needed to know to get started so a thank you to Hellouser. I started at 1% concentration and increased to 5% concentration with little to no side effects. My results have been really good; shedding/loss is now minimal, almost none, thickening all around, and even some hairline regrowth. Basically RU has been doing for me what my best case fin expectations would be. A few weeks ago I decided to up the concentration even more and am now at about 6.7%. Recently I have had some trouble getting and maintaining erections and less libido. I don't know if I just noticed this and it has been going on a while or if it just started.

                                However, I have also been using marijuana nearly daily in the past two months. The weekend when I really started noticing the side effects was when I smoked pretty heavily. Now I am left wondering if my side effects are due to heavy marijuana usage, or increased RU concentration. I have stopped using marijuana for around a week now but the sides have yet to improve.

                                Does anyone here who has been trying RU also use marijuana? And do you think it would increase my chances of side effects? Its driving me nuts not knowing which one is to blame.(P.S I'm aware marijuana use is illegal in many places and am not encouraging it or condoning it, if the content of this post violates forum rules then I do not mind it being removed by the moderator)
                                U are suffering from anti androgen sides , do u smoke cigs? Have u changed your diet?

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