Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)

[doke]

i have posted on the cb thread about mpb treatments it seems they must be reading our thoughts as i had an email today from them saying they too are suffering from hair loss and are restucturing there customer service and will be back again within next few weeks and as i do not want to dupicate the thread you will have to go to cb thread to read what they say on cb cream they will have to mix your own they say that they will give you instuctions on how to make it if you ask them as it seems you may have to heat it and keep it at a certain temp before mixing.
It seems a bit of a hassle to me though im using spiro cream myself and progestorone in minoxidil premixed.

[nliyan25]

Washing hair

Hellouser, currently I am washing my hair with shampoo every night before applying RU. Is this necessary, or is just rinsing your hair with water adequate?

[nliyan25]

Update on progress

Just a quick update on progress.

I have been on RU for about 3.5 months now and am shedding about 50 hairs a day, most of it after applying RU. Is this normal? Not really sure if my hair is getting thicker or not.

[shredder]

just for the record:

I started with 1 ml RU 5% (premixed from anagen) about 1.5 weeks ago. I apply it to the vertex and crown in the evening after showering my hair (with some decent water pressure), but without using shampoo. This is because I wash my hair with shampoo (nizoral once every 4 days and the nanogen and keratene shampoos in between) in the morning, don't want to wash it twice per day (because I don't want to dry out my skin), and because I have found that when I apply RU in the morning, my hair looks a bit greasy - this might be due to the fact that I use glycerin+ethanol instead of PG or KB solution.

so far no libido issues, no ED, nothing else worth mentioning - I may have a slight "feeling" in my inguinal area, but that may actually just be in my head because I know that something like that may occur when using antiandrogens (I had discomfort in this area while on fin, together with a massive libido loss as well as moderate ED).

no results so far, still shedding quite a lot when I wash/shampoo my hair.

[blmars french]

Hi hellouser
alors ça donne quoi ? 6mois après?

[blmars french]

sorry,
then what happens? After 6 months?
actuellement quel est votre véhicule pour CB?

[rdawg]

Hey Hellouser how old are you man? Was your hairloss really aggressive or gradual?

[doke]

just for the record:

I started with 1 ml RU 5% (premixed from anagen) about 1.5 weeks ago. I apply it to the vertex and crown in the evening after showering my hair (with some decent water pressure), but without using shampoo. This is because I wash my hair with shampoo (nizoral once every 4 days and the nanogen and keratene shampoos in between) in the morning, don't want to wash it twice per day (because I don't want to dry out my skin), and because I have found that when I apply RU in the morning, my hair looks a bit greasy - this might be due to the fact that I use glycerin+ethanol instead of PG or KB solution.

so far no libido issues, no ED, nothing else worth mentioning - I may have a slight "feeling" in my inguinal area, but that may actually just be in my head because I know that something like that may occur when using antiandrogens (I had discomfort in this area while on fin, together with a massive libido loss as well as moderate ED).

no results so far, still shedding quite a lot when I wash/shampoo my hair.

hi shredder do you know where anagen is based are they us and have you choose the ru 5% in kb solution? as im wondering which vehicle to chose.

[doke]

has anyone noticed that hellhouser had quite good results on 2% minoxidil with ru at 5% and then decided to go onto 5% minox which decimated his hair where most of us would have stopped using that and return to the 2% minox.
Now to me he had the guts to carry on and got great regrowth later only to still not be satisfied and go onto cb.
Again many people on hairloss web sites have been trying for many years to get ru58841 just because the trials were successfull in stopping and regrowing hair with no systemic side effects and now cb comes along and it maybe as good or better than ru but im thinking that ru is still king but also a premixed ru is what many have wanted for many years.
I am surprised to be honest with the success hell had and then to abandon ru for cb.

[blmars french]

or buy reliable RU58841?
provider in the United States?
I'd like to try.
what is the best vehicle if I preprare all myself.
I am in France.

[Jmf8]

Other Vehicle Options

Wow, 43 pages and I made it. Lots of info to go through. Thanks, Hellouser for all the info. I too refuse to take fin and didn't feel like I got any use from minox. I'm on a bunch of natural subs and just read that too much SP will make your libido go down. I'm on a 560mg dose. Plus Beta Sit and I think that brought my libido down. I was off of it for a couple weeks during xmas and things were up. I get enough beta in the avocados and nuts I eat, so may drop it again. I don't think my scalp likes the PG as it iches a lot.

I used a combo of fin/minox years ago and then stopped after a while. The cost just wore me down after a while and I didn't believe it was doing much. Anyway, doesn't matter. I tried minox again recently for almost a year and was unhappy with results. At that time I went all natural and don't want toxic chems in my body, so I got all the natural sups for hair - saw palmetto, stinging nettle root, pumkin seed oil, beta sitosterol, biotin, some essential oils, cleanse with witch hazel, blah blah. It's hard to say right now what's working as it's been less than a year, and I've gotten off of the minox part way thru, but some people have said my hair seems thicker.

Anyhow, I want to add RU or CB into the program. But def don't want PG in there. I made a spray concoction that I've only started up last night that consists of pumpkin seed oil, apple cider vinegar, liquid SP, essential oils and witch hazel all combined for a nightly spray massage. I'm just wondering if this would be a good vehicle for the RU/CB to be added into. Pumpkin Seed Oil is supposed to be great and easily absorbed, right? I'm guessing I may be hit with the "try it and see" response.

And for all of you who will hit me with the crap about natural being BS and unproven and blah blah. Save it, please. I've read it all. There's a lot of contradiction out there and anecdotal stuff and this is what I'm trying. I may add minox again, but without the PG. And personally, I think we should all stop buying the drugs so that the companies lose money and maybe develop something substantial for us and stop blocking new products from coming about. Merck probably buys companies developing something great and puts them out of business. That's the way big business works.

Also, what's the update with your progress, hellouser? How's the CB going, I'm guessing it's been about/close-to 6 months by now.

[doke]

so i have just found out kane sells premade ruin 5% and 8% strengths which is sold by there europe company so thats great and they have kb solution for us in uk to make our own.

[doke]

What good service from kane date of order for premixed 5% ru in kb solution was ordered sat 8th feb and received today wed 12th feb and kouting purity paperwork in with order.
Just heard that the shipping price for uk has been reduced as well?

[MightyMarc]

Mixing with Minox vs mixing with everclear

Guys,

Awesome posts here!

Im reading also a lot about mixing RU with minox. Does anybody know whether there is a significant difference between mixing RU with minor or mixing RU with everclear en prop?

Dear regards,

Marc

[doke]

holy cow i ordered more ru on wed 12th feb and received the premix on friday 14th even quicker than last order and also received a free 1gram ru packet i will be using 5% kirkland minox once per day at nights.