Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)
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Keep a close eye on the dermarolling thread as I've been reading LOTS about the theory and in talks across all the major hair loss forums, hopefully we can all pull together and find a solution through trial and error
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I got my CB from Kane today, 2grams in total with another 4 grams coming in later on from another source. If used at 10mg/day it would last me almost two years (6000mg / 10 = 600 applications). I'm gonna be using about 15mg/day most likely at 1.5ml per application, at a 10% concentration. I want to make sure I'm protecting my ENTIRE head from DHT hence the 1.5ml but also create regrowth at the hairline and HOPEFULLY fill in the corners.
First things first;
Payment with Kane went fine. Cost was $450 with shipping for only 2 grams. Payment was made through Western Union at a kiosk and then provided Kane the MTCN number via email. CB was shipped the next day and CB arrived in under a week, a day ahead of schedule actually, was supposed to arrive tomorrow according to the tracking number. I'm happy.
Packaging looks like this:
Opened up and theres another small package inside:
Opening up the smaller package lead to this:
I put this away for a few hours (in the freezer) and did more reading on wounding and all that. So now, lets get dissolving!
The setup and CB, which arrived in an airtight silver pouch:
As you can see the CB powder is in another small zip lock bag. Up close you can see the refined powder:
Again, the CB powder is provided in ANOTHER zip lock bag (looks like Kane tries pretty hard to keep it airtight)
Here's the CB in raw form in the bag:
So for my first batch I'm going to premix about 50mg of it in 2ml of ethanol with 2ml of propylene glycol for a total of 4ml. Therefor the 50mg in 4ml makes it a 12.5% concentration. A little below my desire 15% target, but it should do.
Here's the CB completely exposed on my digital scale:
I'm first going to use an Ethanol/PG vehicle, I'll try Oleyl in the coming days. However, the next photo is the CB in my really small glass jar which holds about 8-9ml total. In this photo, the CB has only been in the Ethanol (Everclear, 95%) for about 15-30 seconds and its ALREADY dissolving:
Here's the CB in the ethanol from outside the jar:
And after a 5-10 second light shake, the CB has dissolved COMPLETELY:
I gotta say, this stuff dissolves even faster than my RU58841. It looks pure as the driven snow.
I hope this helps!Comment
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I'm at work at my desk, usually what I do whenever I'm struggling with work or something is bugging me i brush my hands through my hair. Typically this has an effect that I shed a bunch of hairs, sometimes 5-10.
Today, after ONE dose of CB: One hair shed. Just one.
Also, in the morning, shedding was significantly reduced when washing my hair. However, so please don't take this as gospel, it needs to be said that I did skip my application of minoxidil yesterday which could ALSO be the cause of less shedding as that shit is a BITCH to manage.
All in all, no noticeable side effects from CB at all.Comment
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I'm at work at my desk, usually what I do whenever I'm struggling with work or something is bugging me i brush my hands through my hair. Typically this has an effect that I shed a bunch of hairs, sometimes 5-10.
Today, after ONE dose of CB: One hair shed. Just one.
Also, in the morning, shedding was significantly reduced when washing my hair. However, so please don't take this as gospel, it needs to be said that I did skip my application of minoxidil yesterday which could ALSO be the cause of less shedding as that shit is a BITCH to manage.
All in all, no noticeable side effects from CB at all.
I figure with CB + dermarolling + minoxidil + finasteride + transplant (already had) I will have done as much as humanly possible to combat hair loss.Comment
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I figure with CB + dermarolling + minoxidil + finasteride + transplant (already had) I will have done as much as humanly possible to combat hair loss.
Then theres other stuff like emu oil, saba gel, PGD2 inhibitors, PGE2 promoters, etc. However, I've got a feeling that a synthetic form of FGF-9 injected to the scalp post wounding could give significant results.Comment
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I'm at work at my desk, usually what I do whenever I'm struggling with work or something is bugging me i brush my hands through my hair. Typically this has an effect that I shed a bunch of hairs, sometimes 5-10.
Today, after ONE dose of CB: One hair shed. Just one.
Also, in the morning, shedding was significantly reduced when washing my hair. However, so please don't take this as gospel, it needs to be said that I did skip my application of minoxidil yesterday which could ALSO be the cause of less shedding as that shit is a BITCH to manage.
All in all, no noticeable side effects from CB at all.
After applying CB, then Minoxidil and 0.5ml of RU just at my hairline, shedding has decreased. Looks like CB is slowly taking effect but the Minox shed is still pushing forward. Blah.
I'll try a higher concentration and Oleyl/PG as the vehicle. See what works best.Comment
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Just had a proper look at the top of my head and my hairloss is even worse than I thought it was. Give it a year and I'll probably be a NW5... at 21 :/
I really, REALLY don't want to try finasteride, I'm thinking the next option is one of RU or CB, but I don't really know how to go about it. Is ID's CB a viable option? Or am I going to have to mix my own?Comment
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Just had a proper look at the top of my head and my hairloss is even worse than I thought it was. Give it a year and I'll probably be a NW5... at 21 :/
I really, REALLY don't want to try finasteride, I'm thinking the next option is one of RU or CB, but I don't really know how to go about it. Is ID's CB a viable option? Or am I going to have to mix my own?Comment
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Skiny atrophy and cortisol levels. However in regards to skin atrophy it is weaker than the weakest of steroids that cause skin atrophy and your only using 10mg, which is a small amount.
As for cortisol levels, CB goes benign once in the blood stream so it should be rendered ineffective.Comment
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Skiny atrophy and cortisol levels. However in regards to skin atrophy it is weaker than the weakest of steroids that cause skin atrophy and your only using 10mg, which is a small amount.
As for cortisol levels, CB goes benign once in the blood stream so it should be rendered ineffective.
Thanks Hellouser you are wealth of infoJust looked at your pics in this thread for the first time and your hair growth from base line is impressive mate well done. It must have been hard to stick with the treatment through that shed you had in the middle.
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Skiny atrophy and cortisol levels. However in regards to skin atrophy it is weaker than the weakest of steroids that cause skin atrophy and your only using 10mg, which is a small amount.
As for cortisol levels, CB goes benign once in the blood stream so it should be rendered ineffective.Comment
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Same side effects as Finasteride *if* it goes systemic. Although RU is supposed to have a very short half life and the chances of it going systemic are somewhat low. Just don't dermaroll with RU58841, that pretty much guarantees it going to the bloodstream.Comment
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