Hellouser's RU Log (with Minox, CB Nizoral and Saw Palmetto)

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  • nliyan25
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 44

    so....

    Originally posted by hellouser
    RU twice a day isn't necessary. If youre dermarolling I wouldn't use RU, I'd go with CB, as RU can get into your bloodstream (and probably will after dermarolling) and go systemic with side effects similar to Finasteride.
    OK, so it would be ok then to use CB once a day, Minox twice a day, and dermaroll once a week?

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4419

      Originally posted by nliyan25
      OK, so it would be ok then to use CB once a day, Minox twice a day, and dermaroll once a week?
      Bingo, thats going to be my regimen starting TODAY as I just received 98% pure CB-03-01 from Kane. I've still got some RU left so I'll use it around 5+ days after dermarolling ensuring that skin is thick enough to not let it go systemic. Any and all help I can get for a BOOST will be good.

      Keep a close eye on the dermarolling thread as I've been reading LOTS about the theory and in talks across all the major hair loss forums, hopefully we can all pull together and find a solution through trial and error

      Good luck!

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        I got my CB from Kane today, 2grams in total with another 4 grams coming in later on from another source. If used at 10mg/day it would last me almost two years (6000mg / 10 = 600 applications). I'm gonna be using about 15mg/day most likely at 1.5ml per application, at a 10% concentration. I want to make sure I'm protecting my ENTIRE head from DHT hence the 1.5ml but also create regrowth at the hairline and HOPEFULLY fill in the corners.

        First things first;

        Payment with Kane went fine. Cost was $450 with shipping for only 2 grams. Payment was made through Western Union at a kiosk and then provided Kane the MTCN number via email. CB was shipped the next day and CB arrived in under a week, a day ahead of schedule actually, was supposed to arrive tomorrow according to the tracking number. I'm happy.

        Packaging looks like this:



        Opened up and theres another small package inside:



        Opening up the smaller package lead to this:



        I put this away for a few hours (in the freezer) and did more reading on wounding and all that. So now, lets get dissolving!

        The setup and CB, which arrived in an airtight silver pouch:



        As you can see the CB powder is in another small zip lock bag. Up close you can see the refined powder:



        Again, the CB powder is provided in ANOTHER zip lock bag (looks like Kane tries pretty hard to keep it airtight)



        Here's the CB in raw form in the bag:



        So for my first batch I'm going to premix about 50mg of it in 2ml of ethanol with 2ml of propylene glycol for a total of 4ml. Therefor the 50mg in 4ml makes it a 12.5% concentration. A little below my desire 15% target, but it should do.



        Here's the CB completely exposed on my digital scale:



        I'm first going to use an Ethanol/PG vehicle, I'll try Oleyl in the coming days. However, the next photo is the CB in my really small glass jar which holds about 8-9ml total. In this photo, the CB has only been in the Ethanol (Everclear, 95%) for about 15-30 seconds and its ALREADY dissolving:



        Here's the CB in the ethanol from outside the jar:



        And after a 5-10 second light shake, the CB has dissolved COMPLETELY:



        I gotta say, this stuff dissolves even faster than my RU58841. It looks pure as the driven snow.

        I hope this helps!

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          I'm at work at my desk, usually what I do whenever I'm struggling with work or something is bugging me i brush my hands through my hair. Typically this has an effect that I shed a bunch of hairs, sometimes 5-10.

          Today, after ONE dose of CB: One hair shed. Just one.

          Also, in the morning, shedding was significantly reduced when washing my hair. However, so please don't take this as gospel, it needs to be said that I did skip my application of minoxidil yesterday which could ALSO be the cause of less shedding as that shit is a BITCH to manage.

          All in all, no noticeable side effects from CB at all.

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          • win200
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 420

            Originally posted by hellouser
            I'm at work at my desk, usually what I do whenever I'm struggling with work or something is bugging me i brush my hands through my hair. Typically this has an effect that I shed a bunch of hairs, sometimes 5-10.

            Today, after ONE dose of CB: One hair shed. Just one.

            Also, in the morning, shedding was significantly reduced when washing my hair. However, so please don't take this as gospel, it needs to be said that I did skip my application of minoxidil yesterday which could ALSO be the cause of less shedding as that shit is a BITCH to manage.

            All in all, no noticeable side effects from CB at all.
            I'm dermarolling, so I'm going to take your advice and use CB rather than RU; can you post Kane's link to CB sales? I wasn't sure which product was the CB.

            I figure with CB + dermarolling + minoxidil + finasteride + transplant (already had) I will have done as much as humanly possible to combat hair loss.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              Originally posted by win200
              I'm dermarolling, so I'm going to take your advice and use CB rather than RU; can you post Kane's link to CB sales? I wasn't sure which product was the CB.
              Sure:



              I figure with CB + dermarolling + minoxidil + finasteride + transplant (already had) I will have done as much as humanly possible to combat hair loss.
              Well, theres other stuff thats out there that never made it to market but did go through clinical trials, like PSI, its a peptide that grew a lot of hair AND at the hairline. It got scrapped by Leo Pharma when they bought out the company that was working on it. Blame the fat business man asshole for that being killed off.

              Then theres other stuff like emu oil, saba gel, PGD2 inhibitors, PGE2 promoters, etc. However, I've got a feeling that a synthetic form of FGF-9 injected to the scalp post wounding could give significant results.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                Originally posted by hellouser
                I'm at work at my desk, usually what I do whenever I'm struggling with work or something is bugging me i brush my hands through my hair. Typically this has an effect that I shed a bunch of hairs, sometimes 5-10.

                Today, after ONE dose of CB: One hair shed. Just one.

                Also, in the morning, shedding was significantly reduced when washing my hair. However, so please don't take this as gospel, it needs to be said that I did skip my application of minoxidil yesterday which could ALSO be the cause of less shedding as that shit is a BITCH to manage.

                All in all, no noticeable side effects from CB at all.
                Day 2:

                After applying CB, then Minoxidil and 0.5ml of RU just at my hairline, shedding has decreased. Looks like CB is slowly taking effect but the Minox shed is still pushing forward. Blah.

                I'll try a higher concentration and Oleyl/PG as the vehicle. See what works best.

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                • Borealis
                  Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 90

                  Just had a proper look at the top of my head and my hairloss is even worse than I thought it was. Give it a year and I'll probably be a NW5... at 21 :/

                  I really, REALLY don't want to try finasteride, I'm thinking the next option is one of RU or CB, but I don't really know how to go about it. Is ID's CB a viable option? Or am I going to have to mix my own?

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                  • hellouser
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 4419

                    Originally posted by Borealis
                    Just had a proper look at the top of my head and my hairloss is even worse than I thought it was. Give it a year and I'll probably be a NW5... at 21 :/

                    I really, REALLY don't want to try finasteride, I'm thinking the next option is one of RU or CB, but I don't really know how to go about it. Is ID's CB a viable option? Or am I going to have to mix my own?
                    I'd go with Kane's to be honest, you know what youre getting with his.

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                    • brunobald
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 169

                      What are the dangers of CB if any?

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by brunobald
                        What are the dangers of CB if any?
                        Skiny atrophy and cortisol levels. However in regards to skin atrophy it is weaker than the weakest of steroids that cause skin atrophy and your only using 10mg, which is a small amount.

                        As for cortisol levels, CB goes benign once in the blood stream so it should be rendered ineffective.

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                        • brunobald
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 169

                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Skiny atrophy and cortisol levels. However in regards to skin atrophy it is weaker than the weakest of steroids that cause skin atrophy and your only using 10mg, which is a small amount.

                          As for cortisol levels, CB goes benign once in the blood stream so it should be rendered ineffective.

                          Thanks Hellouser you are wealth of info Just looked at your pics in this thread for the first time and your hair growth from base line is impressive mate well done. It must have been hard to stick with the treatment through that shed you had in the middle.

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                          • HARIRI
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 467

                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            Skiny atrophy and cortisol levels. However in regards to skin atrophy it is weaker than the weakest of steroids that cause skin atrophy and your only using 10mg, which is a small amount.

                            As for cortisol levels, CB goes benign once in the blood stream so it should be rendered ineffective.
                            Hellouser, how about the RU sides and dangers? I'm planning to add it to my Minoxidil regime once every evening.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by HARIRI
                              Hellouser, how about the RU sides and dangers? I'm planning to add it to my Minoxidil regime once every evening.
                              Same side effects as Finasteride *if* it goes systemic. Although RU is supposed to have a very short half life and the chances of it going systemic are somewhat low. Just don't dermaroll with RU58841, that pretty much guarantees it going to the bloodstream.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                Update:

                                3rd day in on CB, last night I skipped taking CB and shedding at my desk is more or less back to normal. So far it looks like this stuff needs to be taken DAILY.

                                I'll be trying out oleyl/pg tomorrow.

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