7th World Congress for Hair Research (2013)

[ANW]

they are not dead, just quiet as they round off phase 2

[JJacobs152]

Histogen -> Maybe
Aderans -> Dead

UK_, why are you saying aderans is dead? they haven't said anything good or bad...

[Thinning87]

dr nigam over on hair site posted some new info on histogen. there are some preliminary 48week results.

"Histogen Poster presentation at WCHR 2013@Dr. Nigam's"

we all saw that, this is not new info but the same info rebranded into a new poster, with the exception that they mention there is continued growth at that time (but they do not mention how much...)

[ANW]

dr nigam over on hair site posted some new info on histogen. there are some preliminary 48week results.

"Histogen Poster presentation at WCHR 2013@Dr. Nigam's"

[rdawg]

Well, i can see that some people have no problem getting the product after phase 2...
and yes, if you're talking about phase 2 it's possible that it would be released next year..

but i prefer to wait until it passes phase 3.. and waiting is killing...

phase 2 in asia yea, has to go through Phase III in north america.

I have no idea on the technicalities and such though, but we're looking at 2016 at the earliest in NA. 2015 in asia.

it's far but not insanely far, but 3 more years of losing hair can be pretty damaging, who knows if it can help us enough by then, the next generation is definitely luckier!

[Scientalk56]

Well, i can see that some people have no problem getting the product after phase 2...
and yes, if you're talking about phase 2 it's possible that it would be released next year..

but i prefer to wait until it passes phase 3.. and waiting is killing...

[rdawg]

well they essentially just need funding/licencsing i believe in order to get to phase IIb, or at least that's my understanding.

the actual startup shouldnt take more than a month or so, they don't need that many patients like with phase III.

Sooner they start the better, and I hope they are pushing to get to it ASAP.

[Arashi]

Well what Mr noob with 35 posts? You don't have a clue and you're speculating in a certain direction. I could equally speculate that its going to be ready in asia next year.

We'd both be guessing. Not trying to be mean but seriously... you don't know jack diddley.

Agreed Kiwi. For all we know, they might present final phase I/II results next week, announce the start of phase 2b within 3 months and have their product available in Asia next year. We just don't know and all we can do is guess.

[Kiwi]

I do believe in Histogen, but not in their timeline. We're near the end of june, and still no news about its next phase or the phase i/ii results.
i don't think they will start their next phase 2 before the end of this year.
in this case, we won't see histogen before 2017
Phase 2b - January 2014- January 2015
phase 3 - June 2015 or January 2016 - June 2016 or January 2017
well...

Well what Mr noob with 35 posts? You don't have a clue and you're speculating in a certain direction. I could equally speculate that its going to be ready in asia next year.

We'd both be guessing. Not trying to be mean but seriously... you don't know jack diddley.

[Scientalk56]

I do believe in Histogen, but not in their timeline. We're near the end of june, and still no news about its next phase or the phase i/ii results.
i don't think they will start their next phase 2 before the end of this year.
in this case, we won't see histogen before 2017
Phase 2b - January 2014- January 2015
phase 3 - June 2015 or January 2016 - June 2016 or January 2017
well...

[Pentarou]

Any bridge is better than the one we are currently all sat on...

[Arashi]

And now we play the waiting game...

As always...

The 'waiting game' is going to take 7-8 years at least. Aderans, Replicel, Histogen, they're all just temp solutions anyway. We'll have to wait for a real cure like Team Tokyo's to really solve the hairloss problems. But there's things you can do meanwhile. If you have money you could get a HST for example. Or if you don't have money for that you could start experimenting with things like RU or other medication, quite some people are reporting good results. Hopefully Aderans, Replicel and/or Histogen are going to be enough to bridge the gap to a real cure, but man, the waiting game is far from over ...

[Pentarou]

It looks like a one-shot minoxidil that can last up to 2 years and probably a little longer

Sounds better than that, from what we know. More growth than theoretically possible with minox, plus we don't know yet how long the re-grown hair can last - who knows if it could be kept indefinitely with a maintenance regimen? AFAIK that hasn't been ruled out as a possibility yet.

[TravisB]

And now we play the waiting game...

As always...

Yeah the feeling that we can't do anything to speed things up is the worst.

We can just wait and hope for their awesome results.

Arsenal against MPB is very limited and not too effective - Minox, Fin and Dut (but it's more for desperates)

[Breaking Bald]

And now we play the waiting game...

As always...