A case of NW7 for in-vivo Doubling / HM / DP - Day 1 @ Dr. Nigam's

[elgorvanelsinki]

I'm sorry but when it's too much, it's too much

[elgorvanelsinki]

Dr nigam, please live us alone. First of all we all suffer from a huge disease which for other people that has a full head of hairs or a good coverage seems to be nothing, but life of the most of us are rally compromised, think about the social life and the opportunity to engage a beauty girl, that for me, it's the sense of the life an the joy of life. My advise is "Gho" on with your research but don't try to sell illusion to a poor guy who suffer for real. I've seen many videos on youtube and you were wearing a wig. Why the hell you still try to convince somebody that you are doing hairs multiplication just because you got a picture with two of the most important worldwide researchers in the field of hair restoration. I got many pictures as well with many footballers but i'm not a strikers or a celebrity. And what about your website and your fake photos? i don't understand why you don't fell some kind of shame. I just would love to remember that there are many persons who really suffer from it, and the only thing that we don't want to hear are lies.We're fed up. What about this guy? Is he a NW 7? DId you ever see pictures of patiens on the others ht surgeons web sites comparing with yours? You know it's frustrating... I repeat, please live us alone, don't give us fake hopes shut up and go home wearing your f...... wig!

[Arashi]

I am not the one who will provide you a patch test after 10 years,

No, you're the one coming to this forum, lying and cheating about pretty much everything, doing a graft test on your *staff member* and still haven't been able to show 1 single bit of reliable proof. And when confronted you just attack Gho and turn pretty much every thread into an anti-Gho thread.

[Arashi]

Yes he is not a classic nw7( just compare the number of grafts or hair yield with the classic nw7,he would not have any higher yield).. ..

Thin ? Looks quite normal to me. I bet if he has his hair at 5 mm it looks good.

compare the donor

LOL. You magically didn't shoot a good donor pic. Only the crown and the part just above the safe zone. Some donor is visible on the sides and looks very good to me, not thin at all.

[drnigams]

Alchemist,
this not a test case niether for any fda documentation,
I am not the one who will provide you a patch test after 10 years,
I am doing these cases daily ,with modifications.
I post here not every case with 100% documentatioin,the errors infact should by now be understood that when i am performing procedure the graphic guy is getting ready to post for you all.
No documentation can be 100% solid proof unless independent person gets the procedure and complete watch for people sitting far off.
By the way,the patents ,published study have been exposed on other thread
with claims of stemcell extraction ,longitudnal bisection of afollicle,multiplication of follicle...have been proved wrong after seeing the grafts on petri dish with bulbs like as in fue...
There ill always be some communication gap while communicating on forums...
I have welcomed the doubters to talk on skype live ...to understand technicalities...for this is anew technique called plucking where we will extract all but few grafts from donor....
i spoke to senior forum moderators from france and haarweb on skype..they are coming for their treatment this may...will post my thread todat at haarweb

[Arashi]

Anyway, Dr Nigams, maybe it would be a good thing for those who still believe in you to at least post the pre-op pictures. Because if you don't, then how exactly are you planning to "proof" your technique ?

[drnigams]

didi,
for triplets,we use .8mm.

Dr nigam

Can your technique extract 3 and 4 hair grafts since you use small needle, I think it is same size as one Gho uses .. Gho needle cant extract anything above 2 hair follicles

[Arashi]

,don't confuse with the famous stemcell extraction technique of arashi and im.

LOL. Even IF you were for real (at this points I really don't have any doubts anymore that you're a fraud), then this would be quite a weird way to behave, for a 'serious' doctor, right ?

[drnigams]

Yes he is not a classic nw7( just compare the number of grafts or hair yield with the classic nw7,he would not have any higher yield).. ..compare the donor ,which is very thin with poor density he would have not more than a classical nw7.
Few hair what you see on central scalp are very thin and dormanting.
The issue here is not about nw,but without any documentation,i selected this case because he doesnot have 10000plus grafts which he will require to cover the scalp....than where will i get these number of grafts which you will seee very shortly.
This is anew technique wherin we pluck follicles after loosening with the needle,don't confuse with the famous stemcell extraction technique of arashi and im.
We will remove all his donor grafts in two days except few.
He will get complete donor regeneration by i month as we did not go deeper than 1mm into dermis,unlike others who go deep into dermis to extract or bisect follicle.Hence donor will be safe.
And repeat is donor plucking 4 to 5 times to get 10000plus grafts in subsequent sessions when he comes back from malaysia.

Dr. Nigam,
Just a quick question, why would you call this patient a nw7 ?
To be honest the way i see it is either you don't know about norwood levels or you were just lying

[Arashi]

I hear so many people get down on the fda - but you know what? With FDA, this type of crap doesn't happen. They demand full documentation, statistically meaningful results and repeatable experiments.

Very well said. And Dr Nigams did have a point when he said I was frustrated with HASCI's test. I am. It's really sad that they didn't take good enough pictures. I'm really hoping they're going to re-try. And yes, with FDA this wouldn't have happened.

And regarding Dr Nigams, he's fun to watch for sure, entertainment factor is quite high

[The Alchemist]

I think he just copied and pasted some stuff out of his library documentation. I doubt he even saw this patient today or yesterday.

That's very possible and would be consistent with that type of error.

I honestly think i'm done with the Dr. Nigam story. It's frustrating and a waste of time to try and keep up with the endless "test cases" that never come to fruition. Board members who supposedly get treated, only to never be heard from again. Photoshopped pics. Mislabeled photos. Incomplete photo sets. etc..

I hear so many people get down on the fda - but you know what? With FDA, this type of crap doesn't happen. They demand full documentation, statistically meaningful results and repeatable experiments. Knock it all you want, but they serve a very valuable service and keep the snake oil salesman in the fringes where they belong. Their process is beuraucratic, too long, and needs to be streamlined. But, it's really the only way to have confidence you're not being taken for a ride.

I hope Dr Nigam is real. Ironically, i think Dr. Gho's work provides precedent for his procedure and gives me a little hope that he's on to something. But, i think it's nearly impossible for the individual forum member to truly evaluate these things outside of absolute before and after photos. Day 0 vs Day 365. High Res, no concealer, photos. Highly magnified photos with no landmarks and random green dots on a patient of unknown NW classification don't help anyone.

Dr Nigam has treated enough people with this procedure that, if it works, then 6-9 months from now it will be obvious and we'll hear about it from those treated. Anything between now and then is going to be very difficult to draw conclusions from.

Dr. Nigam, keep working , everyone would like you to succeed. My suggestion to you is to find a scientist to help you with documentation.

[aim4hair]

Dr. Nigam,
Just a quick question, why would you call this patient a nw7 ?
To be honest the way i see it is either you don't know about norwood levels or you were just lying

[Arashi]

Dr nigam

Can your technique extract 3 and 4 hair grafts since you use small needle, I think it is same size as one Gho uses .. Gho needle cant extract anything above 2 hair follicles

Sure. Dr Nigams can just extract 10 hairs at the same time with a needle half as small as HASCI is using.

[Arashi]

Isn't it weird anyway, this doctor doing all those cases and documentation and then all this time on these forums. You'd say he doesn't sleep much

[Arashi]

I agree with you there, the day 3 thing is very troubling. But, what exactly would he gain by calling it day 3 as opposed to day 1? The extraction sites are still there - they'll either grow hair or they wont. Day 1 vs Day 3 doesn't seem to make much difference in the longer view.

I think he just copied and pasted some stuff out of his library documentation. I doubt he even saw this patient today or yesterday.