How does Dr. Wesley's Scarless Pilofocus work?

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  • sausage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1063

    Originally posted by huawei
    I can tell you right now that you're wrong if you think what's holding you back is your lack of hair.

    Get fit, hit the gym, take up some hobbies, work on yourself in general while earning decent money and you will have a far greater chance of getting a women while bald than you would as you are now with a full head of hair.

    Thats the bald truth.
    What!?

    I am pretty fit, I have hit the gym, yeah, you can always get fitter and bulkier, yeah I could put on some henchness cos I am not particularly muscley, I don't earn decent money and very likely never will, please don't tell me I can earn good money, no I can't, unfortunately I am not as intelligent and confident as others.

    Yes, hair is holding me back, I think I know what is holding me back, also yeah you are right.....my job is also something that is holding me back too because.....

    Bald head + shit job = I am ****ed.

    Yes, I could try to push myself to go out there and find someone but my confidence because of hair IS holding me back + I am 100% certain it has stopped girls approaching me. When I had hair they were coming to me......pretty regularly at one point over a few years. Now....nothing......although I am not exactly meeting as many people as I did then, In fact I don't meet many woman, job is full of men, housemates, all men, rarely go out drinking.

    I am going to try to push myself more to get on with it and do something about it, but I am going to find it hard as my hairloss HAS held me back.

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    • sausage
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1063

      Originally posted by garethbale
      It is a pain but if there is regen I would wait, or get some light coverage with Gho in the meantime

      Sausage, how old are you?
      28 and a half.

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      • sausage
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1063

        Went to see Dr Raghu Reddy this evening guys, for a consultation........

        Man, London is busy, nice warm day, packed full of tourists, walked from Waterloo to Westminster, London's a great City, so many pretty girls everywhere too.......was thinking to myself, why can't I just get someone like her (to every pretty girl I saw), maybe if I grew some balls I could find someone I'd be happy with............anyway, onto the consultation............

        Pretty much just a chat really, on reflection I thought there would be more of a study of my hair, to check for things like minaturisation, I would have thought you would need to look closely for this? He did put a microscope type thing up against my donor region and showed me the density on screen though, maybe he could tell if there was minaturisation with that?

        Basically he thinks I only have 1500 grafts worth of donor hair, which when I am a NW6 is obviously not good lol. I was hoping he would say at least 3000. But I am not shocked as I was going into the consultation open minded, not really knowing what donor I had available.

        He did mention SMP before I was going to mention it.......he said he recommends it, he agreed with me that hairlines don't look natural with SMP and that he would be happy to give me 1500 grafts into the hairline and then have SMP to do most of the work.......this is just a consideration for me, something I really need to think about, I am definitely not jumping at getting it done, I am very cautious. The only good thing about only having 1500 grafts available is the cost of getting all this done is going to be a lot cheaper than I envisaged although I am not going to get what I had hoped.

        I did mention Pilofocus to him, he hadn't heard of it. He seemed reluctant on bringing anything new into his clinic but you never know, if it's easy to implement and clearly a step forward then I am sure he will definitely consider it.

        I guess overall Pilofocus is very crucial for me in terms of regeneration if I want to get a good coverage of hair. Ideally I need regeneration to be at least 60% otherwise I think it is game over for me......for a long while, until something finally helps me out.

        Depending on the news Dr Wesley brings us in October will make me decide whether I get Pilofocus, get 1500 FUE +SMP, or I just think feck it - I will stay bald.

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        • FearTheLoss
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1581

          I don't understand how some people like sausage can only have 1500 grafts available and other people like Jotronic can get 10k grafts....when Jotronic had extreme hair loss

          is your density and laxity that bad?

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          • sausage
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1063

            Originally posted by FearTheLoss
            I don't understand how some people like sausage can only have 1500 grafts available and other people like Jotronic can get 10k grafts....when Jotronic had extreme hair loss

            is your density and laxity that bad?
            I was looking at getting FUE, not FUT.

            I am a NW6....going onto NW7. Every online consultation I have had came back with comments like 'below average donor'.

            I also just quickly searched Jotronic's hair and his donor looked pretty thick.

            TBH I thought I had seen some results that guys had had who seemed to have similar donor density to me and they had at least 3000 grafts.....don't count me on that, I'll have to have a look. Surgeons should have a better eye for it than me though. If I had 3000 grafts available I am sure Dr Reddy would have said so.......whether other surgeons think I have more, I don't know.

            If I push Dr Reddy on trying to get 2000 grafts then at a guess he may be happy to do that seeing as he knows I would be getting SMP as well and could fill in the donor with it.

            It sucks, but there we go. I am not interested in FUT, it is barbaric IMO, and it won't yield a good enough result for me.

            Pilofocus has my focus from now on.

            I really need to get myself out of this rut I am in.

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            • Phatalis
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 263

              Originally posted by hellouser
              Money wise theres not much you can do in north america, its very regulated so working the system isnt easy unless you become your own boss. Most business fail.

              Gaining weight and muscle isnt possible for everyone either. I've got an extremely fast metabolism... doesnt matter what I do or eat, I can't bulk up.
              I call bullshit. You CANNOT have a faster metabolism than I do. It's not possible. In the least we're the same man.

              It's ****ing HARD but you need to train your body. I'm not huge but I used to be super ****in skinny.

              You need to eat every three hours. I don't know how much you weigh but probably around 3200+ cals a day. 6+ meals a day. wake up eat. 6 9 12 3 6 9 12 sleep.

              I cheat and use MRP's and shit. 2-3 and eat meals.. small snacks.

              You can gain weight. You're just a hard gainer. Go hit the gym too and lift. Your body will gain and over time become accustomed to the weight gain and you will permanantly be bigger marginally. Maitaining weight is also easier than gaining.

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              • sausage
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1063

                This Pilofocus is non-invasive.......

                So just been thinking about how it works.......

                I came up with.

                1. Hair + follicle is sucked out.......not sure if that is possible, would have to be a bloody good suction tool.

                2. The tools are so small and thin that they can pick the hair and follicle out without taking any skin away. In other words: It slides down the shaft of the hair so tightly that when it reaches the skin it is hugging the hair so much that it fits down the gap where the hair comes out the skin without taking any skin with it. I stole this idea from someone else who mentioned this.

                TBH I think sucking sounds more likely out of these two, even though it sounds far-fetched...

                anyone else have any ideas how it may work?

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                • sausage
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1063

                  Guys, my mind goes round in circles.........

                  I change my mind weekly on what I want to do to my head....

                  I am now no longer going to wait for the announcement on Pilofocus, even if it has 100% regeneration it is going to be way to expensive for me.

                  I have almost decided that I am going to get 1500 or so grafts into my hairline and then get some Micro-pigmentation over my head.

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                  • FearTheLoss
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1581

                    Artista, you may not be able to answer this and maybe Dr. Wesley could...but since this is a scarless procedure, couldn't a norwood 6 get 30ish% or more of his hair from his entire back and sides removed and moved to the top?

                    It takes 50% of hair lost to notice thinning...and FUE doctors are comfortable removing 30% at least from the donor...so if this was possible it would be able to give most nw6's results like bobman or even better....(obviously hair caliber, color and texture all play factors in how results look too)

                    sorry if this has been asked..I think this is an idea worth talking about though

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                    • sausage
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1063

                      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                      Artista, you may not be able to answer this and maybe Dr. Wesley could...but since this is a scarless procedure, couldn't a norwood 6 get 30ish% or more of his hair from his entire back and sides removed and moved to the top?

                      It takes 50% of hair lost to notice thinning...and FUE doctors are comfortable removing 30% at least from the donor...so if this was possible it would be able to give most nw6's results like bobman or even better....(obviously hair caliber, color and texture all play factors in how results look too)

                      sorry if this has been asked..I think this is an idea worth talking about though
                      a personal guess of mine would be .........

                      that you would be able to take more hair than usual FUE but how much who knows, I guess different surgeons would have different opinions. I think it would also depend on how long you wanted to keep your back and sides.

                      I have always said that if you are happy to have SMP into the donor area after surgery then a surgeon would hopefully be prepared to take an extra 10%+ from the donor.

                      I think a NW6 needs at least 5000 grafts get a reasonable look.......which will cost at least £20,000.

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                      • didi
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1360

                        Originally posted by sausage
                        a personal guess of mine would be .........

                        that you would be able to take more hair than usual FUE but how much who knows, I guess different surgeons would have different opinions. I think it would also depend on how long you wanted to keep your back and sides.

                        I have always said that if you are happy to have SMP into the donor area after surgery then a surgeon would hopefully be prepared to take an extra 10%+ from the donor.

                        I think a NW6 needs at least 5000 grafts get a reasonable look.......which will cost at least £20,000.

                        5000 to get reasonable look? Its more like 8 000+

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1087

                          Originally posted by sausage
                          Guys, my mind goes round in circles.........

                          I change my mind weekly on what I want to do to my head....

                          I am now no longer going to wait for the announcement on Pilofocus, even if it has 100% regeneration it is going to be way to expensive for me.

                          I have almost decided that I am going to get 1500 or so grafts into my hairline and then get some Micro-pigmentation over my head.
                          That is not a good idea. If I was you I'd shave down... get the 1500 spread evenly around and then I would get SMP around that over your head.

                          That is what I WISH I'd done!!!

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                          • Tomb10
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 34

                            artista,

                            i was thinking. is it with this methode possible to replace hair of your scalp (not from your back, donor) to your receding hairline?
                            Ofcouse the hairs are not resistant against dht, but when you take finasteride en minox you can protect your hair for at least a couple of years.

                            when this is possible you don't use your donor, and when balding goes further it looks more natural.

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                            • sausage
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1063

                              Originally posted by didi
                              5000 to get reasonable look? Its more like 8 000+
                              I said reasonable look.......ok I'll say 5000 may be a bit low but 6000 IMO would be enough to make a good enough improvement.

                              It's simple....

                              High hairline......3000 grafts takes you half way to covering the scalp or you could probably stretch it slightly further...

                              Then 3000 grafts into back half of head.......this area doesn't need to be thick. Just have a thin crown.

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                              • sausage
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1063

                                Originally posted by Kiwi
                                That is not a good idea. If I was you I'd shave down... get the 1500 spread evenly around and then I would get SMP around that over your head.

                                That is what I WISH I'd done!!!
                                As well as creating a hairline I would be sprinkling the hair over the frontal region.

                                I am not too fussed about the crown, although I'd rather have a sprinkle there as well. I do still have a small amount of hair in the crown as it stands.

                                So have you had SMP done.........you don't sound too happy?

                                Surely you could sprinkle hair on top of the SMP.

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