50 grafts patch test in Vitro Hair Doubling as requested by GC @Dr. Nigam's

[Arashi]

I know Arashi doesn't agree because he thinks he'll be biased

For sure. I'm not sure what happened to Didi. He started out as somebody sincerely interested in all this. Now it's like it's become personal or something. He keeps talking about how Dr Nigams is going to 'crush' dr Gho, like it's become some kind of game for him and it's now all about 'winning' that came to him. I'm afraid he's even willing to lie and cheat now, to 'win' that game.

[gc83uk]

Yes Dr Nigam, please don't waste anymore time talking about the 15 graft test.

Please put your effort in to a much bigger test on a forum member. I think Didi should be this candidate, I know Arashi doesn't agree because he thinks he'll be biased, but it will be great viewing.

Get it done correctly and we will all say your were right all along.

[534623]

I dont have any proof abt Woods but everyone knows he is one of the best when it comes to yield with small numbers of grafts.

Why did you edit/remove the part "I've never seen a bad result"??

Anyway - here is THE reason, why you never can see bad results ...

[gc83uk]

Spot on GC, its my 4th language

Btw, how bt you provide me those photos we talked abt but it never happen?I wanna analize your recipinet area

I can tell it's your 4th language.

What is the point of me showing you more photos? You don't answer anything on here about yourself, so why should I go to all the effort for someone like you?

You show no gratitude whatsoever. You were once a sound person, but now you've turned in to a complete gimp!

As for asking to keep it civilised, do you have any idea how hypocritical that is coming from you? You bash Gho constantly, even calling him a hermit and also asking for people to be banned. That is Pathetic behaviour, call yourself a man?

You'll never see me bash Gho or Nigam. The only time I had a problem with Dr Nigam was when he posted those outrageous photoshopped phots.

If I was Dr Nigam I'd be asking you to calm down, your fanatical behaviour is making him sound too good to be true. That isn't helping him.

[drnigams]

Don't worry didi, just post from hs to tbt the videomicroscopic pics which i will post in 15 min , lets hear from im...
How sad im is praying this technique doesn't work...

Next test I will instruct dr nigam to extract 50 3 hair grafts and we will monitor both areas.

[Arashi]

Have a look at the video microscopic much clearer pic to be posted shortly at HS tonight which is infront of me (just 7th day pic) and tomorrow recipient.

Dr Nigams, I don't think most people are taking your 15 graft test seriously. Doing it on a staff member gave you tons of way to cheat. It might be interesting for your own research, but to us (at least to me) it means nothing.

You need to do a 50 graft test on an independent patient. And if succesful, Didi will come to your clinic too

[drnigams]

Have a look at the video microscopic much clearer pic to be posted shortly at HS tonight which is infront of me (just 7th day pic) and tomorrow recipient.
Lets see who will be off.

114281]...and as far as I remember - he could only find one 3-hair graft.

didi must be pissed ... [/QUOTE]

[didi]

Instruct? Give me a break. English clearly isn't your first language.

Spot on GC, its my 4th language

Btw, how bt you provide me those photos we talked abt but it never happen?I wanna analize your recipinet area

[gc83uk]

I dont have any proof abt Woods but everyone knows he is one of the best when it comes to yield with small numbers of grafts.Thats what i heard anyway, never saw single bad result from him.


We need to find someone who is willing to travel to india...
if he gets 40+ 3 hair grafts to grow in recipient+donor....im buying tickets to delhi

OK Dr Nigam, it's there in black and white. All you have to do is get 40 x 3 hair grafts from a donor area and show 40 x 3 hair grafts in the recipient and Didi will come to you.

At least we now know, it took a few days, but we got there in the end

[Arashi]

Thats what i heard anyway

And that is all Didi needs to become a fanboy ...

[Arashi]

Arashi,
Ask im,donor regen is not an issue with my invivo technique as the dermal papilla is intact with it's blood and nerve supply.
Thereal thing which you should focus to monitor is recipient, and i have posted good clear pics of recipient.
In nsn case i was little unorthodox, wherein i placed him in left lateral position so that one doc extract the other bisects and the third implants ,thus graft will have minimum time to be outside scalp.
Photographer took regular standard pics when we place the patient in supine like other patients and focussed on back of the scalp.
He had already done one procedure in the same area which i came to know later or else i would have taken the partial grafts from the back of the scalp.
And please arashi, lets stop bashing anyone , i have stopped even after instigation,and focus on contributing to cure.
We all are hair to get our follicles back or else there are enough interesting things to do before we die(i hope you watch this show on Discovery network)

And by the way we do 150 transplants per month(ask nsn), even if we do 300 shortly by dec2013 hopefully, patients will be able to get appointment within a week.

I'm not bashing you Dr Nigams. I'm just saying you haven't provided any proof at all. If you want us to take you seriously, then THAT is what you will have to do. All these words about ultrasound etc sound very interesting but it won't make me even consider to come to your clinic. Proof on the other hand will.

[didi]

I dont have any proof abt Woods but everyone knows he is one of the best when it comes to yield with small numbers of grafts.

We need to find someone who is willing to travel to india...
if he gets 40+ 3 hair grafts to grow in recipient+donor....im buying tickets to delhi

[gc83uk]

Next test I will instruct dr nigam to extract 50 3 hair grafts and we will monitor both areas.

Instruct? Give me a break. English clearly isn't your first language.

[Arashi]

Do you have any proof?

Asking didi to produce proof is like asking a chimpanzee to explain Einstein's relativity theory: nothing will happen.

[drnigams]

Arashi,
Ask im,donor regen is not an issue with my invivo technique as the dermal papilla is intact with it's blood and nerve supply.
Thereal thing which you should focus to monitor is recipient, and i have posted good clear pics of recipient.
In nsn case i was little unorthodox, wherein i placed him in left lateral position so that one doc extract the other bisects and the third implants ,thus graft will have minimum time to be outside scalp.
Photographer took regular standard pics when we place the patient in supine like other patients and focussed on back of the scalp.
He had already done one procedure in the same area which i came to know later or else i would have taken the partial grafts from the back of the scalp.
And please arashi, lets stop bashing anyone , i have stopped even after instigation,and focus on contributing to cure.
We all are hair to get our follicles back or else there are enough interesting things to do before we die(i hope you watch this show on Discovery network)

And by the way we do 150 transplants per month(ask nsn), even if we do 300 shortly by dec2013 hopefully, patients will be able to get appointment within a week.

On the one hand Dr Nigams, I love a lot of what you said and a lot of what you're saying makes sense. For example adding 'eyes' (or 'ears' in this case) to performing the in vivo extraction using ultrasound does seem like a very interesting idea. It does give me hope you're serious about all this.

On the other hand you keep failing miserably at proving your technique(s). Like Gc83uk noted, you did a nice job at circling NSN's donor after extraction. We would need a photo like that pre-op as well and if NSN would shoot his post-op pictures himself in that same way, it would be very easy to at least monitor donor regrowth. Monitoring a small section like that mole proves nothing cause that section is WAY to easy to cheat (if your intentions were bad). Same goes for doing any test on staff members. That might be interesting for your own research, but as proof to us it's quite useless.