Dr Nigam-Neversaynever update-hair doubling

[drnigams]

VOX,
Neversaynever the forum member will post his donor and recipient pics from UK,i hope shortly.
By the way we have stopped doing FUE and are only doingHAIR/DONOR doubling plus HM with stemcell solution.

Your approach is perfect under one condition: this must be performed on an independent volunteer (e.g. respectable forum member), not a staff member. Any photographic work inside the clinic can be manipulated. The after-operation follow-up photos have to be taken by the patient in his home, ideally in the presence of another forum member who could also help in it, to have any credibility.

[Arashi]

Your approach is perfect under one condition: this must be performed on an independent volunteer (e.g. respectable forum member), not a staff member. Any photographic work inside the clinic can be manipulated. The after-operation follow-up photos have to be taken by the patient in his home, ideally in the presence of another forum member who could also help in it, to have any credibility.

That's where video proof can help, if done correctly almost impossible to manipulate.

[Vox]

How does that sound? I think it will be a walk in the park for you

Your approach is perfect under one condition: this must be performed on an independent volunteer (e.g. respectable forum member), not a staff member. Any photographic work inside the clinic can be manipulated. The after-operation follow-up photos have to be taken by the patient in his home, ideally in the presence of another forum member who could also help in it, to have any credibility.

[drnigams]

GC,
If I implant the distal longer part of the follicle/s at the donor, it can be seen even if there is a blood spot. But the other tiny part of the follicle with the dermal papilla may not be seen if implanted into the donor.
I will also take the video as suggested by Arashi. We can do the whole thing on skype under our top ranking critics, iron man and Arashi.
GC, I would suggest that we use 1 cm x 1 cm, extraction area at the shaved donor with the tattoo and the same area with the tattoo at the recipient slick bald scalp.
I will do the procedure tomorrow and will take macro and videoscope pics. The reason why I am choosing 1sq cm is because the videoscope can cover the whole area in 1 shot. I will also pose the pics of bisected follicles, any other modifications, let me know. By the way, did you have a look at my other documentation of hair doubling of six single follicles to 12/ 13 single follicles all implanted at the recipient. The documentation also had a tattoo.

I will prefer using single follicle graft to avoid any confusion raised by Arashi.

Hi Dr Nigam,

Can you just clarify, for this 50 graft test.

If you extract 50 grafts, would you place half of the FU back into the donor?

If you do this, what will the extraction site look like immediately after the procedure? Will it just be a bloody scab or will there be a single hair shaft sticking out from this extraction point?

[Arashi]

Your posts gives me confidence that i am on the right track..!

I sincerely hope you're on the right track. If you can proof what you claim you can do, it would be HUGE. Just saying that I'm sure you understand we need to see SOLID proof.

[Vox]

I'd LOVE to see these 'photoshopped' images, I'll easily tell you guys if this accusation is true.

I cannot believe you missed the huge thread that was running on this topic. For example, fast-forward to page 26 where there is a photo which is manipulated beyond any doubt (look at the hair on the sides).

I am sorry but history is bad and works against in this case.

[drnigams]

Arashi,
It's the story of every new inventor..."First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi
But in this case ,we all will win.
You should remain skeptical...it will be good for the research.
Your posts gives me confidence that i am on the right track..!

No, I don't have any clue to what he does, he keeps changing names for his procedures, keeps changing the procedures themselves and just throws a lot of hard to understand words and sentences onto these boards to 'impress' us. Needless to say I'm extremely skeptical

[gc83uk]

Hi Dr Nigam,

Can you just clarify, for this 50 graft test.

If you extract 50 grafts, would you place half of the FU back into the donor?

If you do this, what will the extraction site look like immediately after the procedure? Will it just be a bloody scab or will there be a single hair shaft sticking out from this extraction point?

[drnigams]

Arashi,
Neversaynever's preop macropics of all the angles including donor area are taken and posted and his videomicroscopic pics will be posted when neversaynever posts his follow up videomicroscope pics for before and after comparision.
Neversaynever can easily tell you where and how many grafts we extracted and implanted.
We have kept his birthmark at the donor where 10 grafts were extracted in a circle ,and the hair around the birth mark apart from those can easily be counted as it has very low density around birth mark.
Critics should always be kept around ,it raises the bar and evolves one..!
I have already presented a case with hair doubling at the recipient of 6 single grafts to 12/13 bisected single grafts.You can have a look at the thread under cutting edge treatments.

[Arashi]

Don't suppose you know the answer to my last post do you? Does he reinsert half of the FU back into the donor extraction site?

No, I don't have any clue to what he does, he keeps changing names for his procedures, keeps changing the procedures themselves and just throws a lot of hard to understand words and sentences onto these boards to 'impress' us. Needless to say I'm extremely skeptical

[gc83uk]

Thing is, he can just take 50 grafts elsewhere, from the other side of the head and use those. Then, in the monitored area he doesn't really extract the grafts at all, he just pulls out the hairs (not the grafts) and make superficial skin wounds.

A video pre and post op can prevent this.

Fair enough, that makes sense. Basically a video scanning the head before and after the procedure showing that the grafts haven't been taken from another section of the head.

Don't suppose you know the answer to my last post do you? Does he reinsert half of the FU back into the donor extraction site?

[Arashi]

How can he do this? We will have a before and after shot of the monitored area? First show we'll be able to see these 50 grafts, second shot will be 50 bloody wounds with no hair in them at all.

Thing is, he can just take 50 grafts elsewhere, from the other side of the head and use those. Then, in the monitored area he doesn't really extract the grafts at all, he just pulls out the hairs (not the grafts) and make superficial skin wounds.

A video pre and post op can prevent this.

[gc83uk]

I've just thought of another way: all Dr Nigam needs to do to provide solid proof, is make a video. Get a good camera, 1080p. Then, after the procedure, make a video which shows continuous shots of the WHOLE scalp, in close up, slowly, so we can easily see that the grafts were actually taken from the shown area and not somewhere else. I suggest to make the video a few minutes and circle around the head different speeds. Would also be great if this could be done pre-op of the shaved head, with enough detail so we can count hairs/graft if we'd freeze the vid.

This in combination with what GC83UK outlined should be good proof imho. Dr Nigam can then go ahead and use somebody from his staff as a test person.

Also, a regular forum member here could be invited to watch the whole procedure in person, if anyone would be interested of course, this would even add more proof. But I don't think it's necessary, if good photo's and video's are being made.

I understand your skepticism, but I think this maybe over complicating things by doing videos, we're going to put him off if we're not careful.

If Nigam just sticks to my 8 point plan it will be IMPOSSIBLE to fabricate.

You said basically " Like, extract the grafts elsewhere and just extract *hairs* (not the grafts) in the observation area. "

How can he do this? We will have a before and after shot of the monitored area? First show we'll be able to see these 50 grafts, second shot will be 50 bloody wounds with no hair in them at all.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something?

Does he re-insert the graft back into the donor? I kinda forgot about this!

When he does this, is there a visible hair poking through the scalp of the donor extraction site? If so, is it just a 1 hair FU of the original 2FU? I'd appreciate clarification on this if anyone knows?

[Arashi]

But up till now, we've seen nothing but those photoshopped pictures.

And then you've posted pre-op photo's of NSN's scalp but somehow 'forgot' to include a good pre-op photo of the area you've taken the grafts from. To me every 'mistake' you make is just too much coincidence. That together with everything you've said in the past, of which a lot just doesn't add up, makes me confident you're a fraud. I'd love to be proven wrong though !! 100% regeneration would be a HUGE thing.

[Arashi]

And to Dr Nigam: Look, you've called this skepticism on yourself, after everything that happened in the past, I'm sure you understand. Making a good video and posting pictures like outlined is only a very small price to pay: if you have posted solid, undeniable proof of what you claim you can do, then the whole Western world will knock on your door for transplants.