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  • Scientalk56
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 280

    Originally posted by hellouser
    I've been under the impression Phase III is one single phase rather than 'A' and 'B' as far as I'm aware, Histogen themselves decided to do a two-step Phase II trial with 'A' and 'B'
    I hope that too..!

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    • FearTheLoss
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1581

      Originally posted by Scientalk56
      I hope that too..!
      Histogen will be available in asia after phase 2b...there is no need to do a phase III trial for asia as there is no FDA approval required. We are looking at 2015 asia and 2017 usa

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      • Thinning87
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 839

        Dude if that we're true my life would be complete. I have everything I just need my hair to grow back and stay. Let's hope you're right!!!!!!!!!

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        • FearTheLoss
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1581

          Originally posted by Thinning87
          Dude if that we're true my life would be complete. I have everything I just need my hair to grow back and stay. Let's hope you're right!!!!!!!!!
          Im quoting what Ziering said in his interview with Spencer..and I trust Ziering to be a credible source. So barring any unforeseen health concerns or that ****ing skin company trying to sue them again they should be on track. Can't wait for the update coming in a month!!!

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          • Thinning87
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 839

            I don't recall him saying that with firmness in the interview. I think he was kind of giving a rough estimate. And I'm pretty sure he said that was the best case scenario. But I don't remember the interview exactly so I might be wrong.

            Whichever it is I'm gonna start saving $10k per year in the hope of a hairy future.

            Also, what makes me optimistic is that all trials went so well - I don't see how this could fail before its release, especially with the continued growth a lot of people showed. **** I'm gonna get back on finasteride only because of them so they'd better release that shit soon!!!

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            • FearTheLoss
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1581

              Originally posted by Thinning87
              I don't recall him saying that with firmness in the interview. I think he was kind of giving a rough estimate. And I'm pretty sure he said that was the best case scenario. But I don't remember the interview exactly so I might be wrong.

              Whichever it is I'm gonna start saving $10k per year in the hope of a hairy future.

              Also, what makes me optimistic is that all trials went so well - I don't see how this could fail before its release, especially with the continued growth a lot of people showed. **** I'm gonna get back on finasteride only because of them so they'd better release that shit soon!!!
              He said "I'm not here to give anyone false hope and I don't want to be overly optimistic, but I would say something along the lines of 2-3 years for Asia and somewhere around 5 for the US."

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              • rdawg
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 996

                Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                Histogen will be available in asia after phase 2b...there is no need to do a phase III trial for asia as there is no FDA approval required. We are looking at 2015 asia and 2017 usa
                I've heard this as well. If they start 2B soon you could see it available late 2014.

                Its north america that is a few years away.

                but by Asia what countries would that include? I'd honestly fly out if the cost isnt crazy and the product actually works well.

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4419

                  Originally posted by rdawg
                  I've heard this as well. If they start 2B soon you could see it available late 2014.

                  Its north america that is a few years away.

                  but by Asia what countries would that include? I'd honestly fly out if the cost isnt crazy and the product actually works well.
                  Take a vacation to Asia. Will do you good seeing another culture. Since its injections, you won't have any ugly healing as you would with FUE or HST thus you'll be able to enjoy your time there. Kill two birds with one stone.

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    Originally posted by rdawg
                    National Procedures Institute - Cosmetic and Anti-Aging Medicine
                    April 25 - 26, 2013
                    Charlston, SC
                    Dr. Gail Naughton to speak on the topic of Stem Cell Research and Technology in Cosmetic Dermatology.

                    National Institute of Health (NIH) Biotechnology Training Program
                    April 26, 2013
                    Washington State University
                    Dr. Gail Naughton to present.

                    International Investigative Dermatology Annual Meeting
                    May 8 - 11, 2013
                    Edinburgh, Scotland
                    Histogen to present "Embryonic-like cell-secreted proteins induce hair growth in a phase I/II trial in male pattern baldness".

                    If not the first two then 100% we will be getting an update may 8th-11th.
                    Judging by the titles, it would make a lot of sense that they´re going to discuss final phase I/II results on that May meeting. I doubt they'll leak anything in those end of april meetings, but who knows.

                    Anyway, very exciting stuff all this ! If there aren't any complications, then yes, this should be available somewhere in 2015 in Asia (half year to get Phase IIb started, a year to run Phase IIb and then some months to get approval for Asia).

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                    • FearTheLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1581

                      I don't believe there is any time they have to wait to get approval in Asia...they can release it right after the testing is done...it would be nice if they were already starting or had already started 2b...but realistically i would say q2 2015...

                      that being said, it will be nice to know that something is coming and it's something good..lets just hope these results are what we want to hear

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                      • Scientalk56
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 280

                        Am i the only one who's interested in FDA approved drug? :O

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                        • garethbale
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 603

                          Despite the early promise, I've got this horrible feeling that they will present something underwhelming and we will be back to square one come May, and we will all be saying ' how come they are back to stage X when they presented such promising initial results '

                          God, I hope I'm wrong. Come on Histogen, don't let me down!!!

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                          • Scientalk56
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 280

                            Originally posted by garethbale
                            Despite the early promise, I've got this horrible feeling that they will present something underwhelming and we will be back to square one come May, and we will all be saying ' how come they are back to stage X when they presented such promising initial results '

                            God, I hope I'm wrong. Come on Histogen, don't let me down!!!
                            we all saw the initial results from phase i/ii, and they were impressive. so i don't think it will be underwhelming.

                            The question is when will they start phase IIb...

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              Originally posted by Scientalk56
                              Am i the only one who's interested in FDA approved drug? :O
                              Honestly, I'll probably wait for FDA approval too and bridge the time with another Gho HST, but just merely KNOWING that this treatment is available would be a really comforting feeling.

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                Originally posted by Scientalk56
                                we all saw the initial results from phase i/ii, and they were impressive. so i don't think it will be underwhelming.

                                The question is when will they start phase IIb...
                                We've seen preliminary phase I/II results, they were great, so question is not if they will be underwhelming, question is: are they even BETTER than what we've seen so far.

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