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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    Originally posted by Thinning87

    shut up idiot
    Are that the only 3 words learned at school as soon as they were talking about you?

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      Originally posted by drnigams

      Kurt stenn was on one year leave... from aderans ..that's
      what he told me at wchr,2013,edinburgh.
      Yeah, the problem was that Dr. Kurt Stenn couldn't really see (anymore) what Dr. Ken Washnik could always see - instead of making solid hardcore research ...

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      • yeahyeahyeah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1776

        Originally posted by garethbale
        You are weird!
        +1

        I dont even think IM wants a hairloss solution. He just revels in the plight of balding guys.

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        • One
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 132

          Originally posted by 534623
          bla bla bla
          You're a psychopath clown. Go quickly to a good psychiatrist, forget the hair!

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          • yeahyeahyeah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1776

            Originally posted by Pentarou
            Histogen's HSC may never be released. Their company finances are in a poor state. We should not exclude the possibility that they could end up like ARI, short of an injection of money.

            I think the most likely successes will be treatments that piggy-back on non-hairloss conditions...
            That is the case with every start up.

            But if their product is good enough; which it is, they will get investors.

            NOTE:

            The problem with aderans, they never grew any cosmetic significant hair, just microscopic like intercytex.

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
              That is the case with every start up.

              But if their product is good enough; which it is, they will get investors.
              WHERE the ****ing hell can you see something that clearly shows that "their product is "good enough""????????????

              You will never ever see something by them which is "good enough" - at least, not really something concerning "hair loss"!

              Histogen will simply SHUT DOWN - like MANY others before them. That's what will happen.

              Oh, by the way, and just in case you still don't get it:

              IF they would indeed have something in their hands that really works - they wouldn't have any troubles at all to get investors!

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              • yeahyeahyeah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1776

                Originally posted by 534623
                WHERE the ****ing hell can you see something that clearly shows that "their product is "good enough""????????????

                You will never ever see something by them which is "good enough" - at least, not really something concerning "hair loss"!

                Histogen will simply SHUT DOWN - like MANY others before them. That's what will happen.

                Oh, by the way, and just in case you still don't get it:

                IF they would indeed have something in their hands that really works - they wouldn't have any troubles at all to get investors!
                They have released photos showing velius hair that his cosmetically thickened.

                Aderans on the other hand, didn't release anything of that nature.

                And no offense, but do you work for histogen, how can you make such statements without knowing what is going on.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah

                  They have released photos showing velius hair that his cosmetically thickened.
                  Yeah, sure - but just in case that you don't analyze their shit photos (like nigams photos) properly...

                  Oh, by the way:
                  In Edinburgh, as well as some time later at their website, this time they didn't even publish something anymore, what makes it possible at all to "analyze something properly" ...lol ... and I know why ...

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1776

                    Originally posted by 534623
                    Yeah, sure - but just in case that you don't analyze their shit photos (like nigams photos) properly...

                    Oh, by the way:
                    In Edinburgh, as well as some time later at their website, this time they didn't even publish something anymore, what makes it possible at all to "analyze something properly" ...lol ... and I know why ...
                    When I looked at their 'shit photos' it was clear there was growth on the temples for one patient.

                    Either I am imagining things, or it really did happen.

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                    • x4342
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 55

                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      They have released photos showing velius hair that his cosmetically thickened.

                      Aderans on the other hand, didn't release anything of that nature.

                      And no offense, but do you work for histogen, how can you make such statements without knowing what is going on.


                      Ironman is a mentally unstable troll, and obviously isn't privy to what is going on at Histogen, but he does have a point. If you truly have something you'll get your funding. There is a chicken and egg thing going on.
                      The narrative after a company fundamentally fails to accomplish anything is "oh, but we just needed more funding. We were really getting somewhere."


                      Given unlimited time and money any mediocre collection of researchers could eventually have come up with something but by that point decades would have passed and something better would already have been released. It was no different with intercytex. Ultimately, they got what they deserved. They had nothing of real value.
                      Eventually it's time to put up or shut up.


                      -I don't know what is going on with Histogen, but people like Desmond have every reason to be nervous. Naughton engaged in damage control in her last email, but it's obvious they are having serious issues convincing people they have a truly viable product. If their product is truly valuable they should be steamrolling ahead.

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                      • yeahyeahyeah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1776

                        Originally posted by x4342

                        -I don't know what is going on with Histogen, but people like Desmond have every reason to be nervous. Naughton engaged in damage control in her last email, but it's obvious they are having serious issues convincing people they have a truly viable product. If their product is truly valuable they should be steamrolling ahead.
                        Again why isn't Spencer Kobren finding out what is going on for us?

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                        • UK Boy
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 240

                          This is pretty depressing, I didn't hold out much hope of Ji Gami being a very good product anymore but still thought it would be brought to market due to Aderans' funding. I agree though, why are we hearing about this in this way!? Spencer says he has no inside info but he does no Washenik personally - Spencer should have brought this info to us along with an interview from Washenik. I hope Spencer will contact Washenik today and get a statement and report on it in his next live show.

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                          • oppenheimer82
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 118

                            Originally posted by 534623
                            Really? YOU saw this coming?

                            wow, you REALLY should get laid or something, your behaviour is not normal.

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1581

                              Let's hold all the speculation until we have received an official report from the company. I don't see how after all the years of research they would just give up and sell everything, without even bringing out the product they had so close to the market. Even with a 60% response rate, numerous people would get the procedure.

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                              • KO1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 805

                                I think you guys should calm down a bit. ARI may have closed, or it may not have. What we do know is that they've just finished up P2 trials, and as a result, they may be downsizing with the end of one development period. Before going into P3, they will need more funding, and the cycle will start again.

                                A lot of people left Follica over the last two years, including some very core people, but they have indicated that they are still moving forward.

                                Let's wait for confirmation.

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